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Haven´t heard that one. Which album?
A bootleg,never released...
Nope, he's not on LC.
Mathijs
Wyman doesn't play on it though...
Mathijs
Rocks Off a Taylor song? Taylor can be heard for about 5 seconds in the fade out....
Mathijs
True, maybe he isn't! I can't remember the sleeve credits on that number... for what the sleeve credits back in those days were worth, anyway But Loving Cup is probably my fav song from the "Taylor era". And yes, before people start typing up a storm, I realise the Stones started working on this song before he joined... As for his playing, on official releases, I think I like his FAT chords on "Little Queenie" Get Yer Ya-Yas... or whatever the hell he is playing on that song, whenever I play it the stereo speakers nearly can't handle the vamping that occurs during the verses... Yes I'll take that particular guitar playing any day over his CYHMK jam (as beautiful as that jam is)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-07-13 15:51 by bolexman.
Isn't that Taylor on the 2nd guitar playing all along the song (the one that comes in after the intro riff)?
C
That's a rhetorical question, liddas. Right 'ear' if listening with earphones.
Loud and clear.Makes it bit more tasty. To much open G guitarwork make the Stones monotone. Taylor creates the perfect balance .
Stirring up again? No open G at all on Rocks Off, as you know very well 
First, there is no open G guitar on Rocks Off. Aside from the fact that the intro does not use a slackened A string, the intro is played with the same guitar and setup as the remaining guitar on the left channel, and this channel all is Keith on an Ampeg Dan Armstrong or Telecaster (although there are no pics available of a Tele being present at the sessions set-up in standard tuning) through a Fender amp, as is the right channel guitar. So it is:
Intro riff in the left channel: Keith, standard tuning, Armstrong/Tele through Fender amp.
At 0:04 a second guitar enters at the right channel: Keith, standard tuning, Armstrong/Tele through Fender amp.
At: 0:06 a third guitar with out pf phase sound and with reverb enters in the background in the middle of the stereo spectrum. This is Taylor playing a counter melody to the opening riff. This guitar disappears at around 0:16.
Until the middle 8 break there’s only two guitars and a (fantastic!) piano, guitars all Keith, standard tuning. The middle break is again two guitars, all Keith, left channel with added tremolo and right channel with added phase effect.
The two Keith guitars finish the song until a third guitar enters at minus 0:30 playing a counter melody with chords in the same out of phase tone as the third guitar in the intro but without reverb, then at 0:15 this guitar develops in a short lead burst. This guitar is Taylor, and the out of phase tone suggest him playing the Gibson ES-355 with the Varitone set at the third or fourth position.
Mathijs
wow you're amazing man. i listen pretty closely but never have had the natural talent to hear what you hear with such definition and then tech analysis as to equipment and how many layers who played what exact part on what exact instrument...from what exact year and manufacturer...and where the friggin' tree grew before they chopped it down and carved a guitar out of it....
....and where in the pan/mix etc any of these little flourishes or parts are....
.....just brilliant. always love it. one of the things i learn from it is how meticulous their editing and over-dubbing prowess is; they get to the 'point' ...know what is is, instrumentally,musically speaking, in any given section of a song, and just hone it down or build it up to emphasize articulate punctuate...whatever...i'm sure they wouldn't use those words but that's how i feel what i imagine to be their process...and then hone it down editing for whatever thrust lifts the section etc...
i'm guessin' ur probably blessed/cursed with perfect pitch too.
thnx cool post.
impressive here is all the great great songs and great great playing being displayed. just overwhelmingly great classic wonderful eternal performances never to grow old or do ANYTHING other than to really communicate such amazing energy and richness of sound. wow. the rolling stones of the taylor era just beyond comprehending; from bleed to iorr of official releases? never ever gonna be topped ever. can't see it anybody topping that. just can't. and the good news is that it is so vibrant and it's here...it's never lost it's power of persuasion or ferocious sense of engagement. it's sweeping.
i'm stickin' to dance little sister tho. for me, as much as i'm stunned by countless taylor performances on transcendental leads, this double rhythm attack is SO majorly in the depths of the eternal groove that it's miraculous piece of seeming fluff. this grinds so bad. i mean it's super. AND it shows, as do COUNTLESS huge amounts of their hits and other tracks, that taylor understands intuitively how to play WITH another guitarist; at least captain keith...in a RHYTHM context; as well as the obvious angelic grace notes and world war three walls of power...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-07-17 16:16 by Beelyboy.
That seems a good analysis to me, Mathijs. But how are you so sure it's Keith on the right channel all the way from 0:03 on? The repetitiveness and 'pattern' of this guitar reminds me of Taylor on Bitch. So to me it also could be Taylor. The third guitar during the last 30 sec. is undoubtedly Taylor. Very recognizable.
Did I say that? When I think about the RS I connect it to open G. That must be the error. I didn't even check it.
Well, it's just signature Keith rythm playing, it's something he'd done the years before that and after up to about '80 or so. It's this playing around the '1' that's so typical for the Stones and Keith, and just very a-typical for Taylor. Taylor never ever played liked this, it's just not his strength. Really, it's just very signature Richards playing, just as the last 30 second of lead guitar is signature Taylor playing, beyond any doubt.
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Re: Best Mick Taylor Era Stones Song
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Date: July 12, 2010 18:36
Stop Breaking Down. A cover, but a great one nonetheless.
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Date: July 12, 2010 20:14
It's Only Rock 'n' Roll
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Date: July 12, 2010 22:04
All Down the Line
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Re: Best Mick Taylor Era Stones Song
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Date: July 12, 2010 22:14
all kinds of great ones; sway, moonlight mile, winter, time waits for no one, his bass on fingerprint file, everything he plays on exile etc etc etc
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Date: July 12, 2010 22:20
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Countless.
Haven´t heard that one. Which album?
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Countless.
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Re: Best Mick Taylor Era Stones Song
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Date: July 12, 2010 23:59
TIME WAITS FOR NO ONE
period!
period!
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So hard to choose... Loving Cup, Moonlight Mile, or CYHMK.
Is Taylor on Loving Cup at all? I don´t think so.
Nope, he's not on LC.
Mathijs
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Date: July 13, 2010 15:06
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All down the line , all stones present , great keith intro . drums coming in, great slide sound , slide and vocal together and fantastic b/u vocals ,its a classic!!
Wyman doesn't play on it though...
Mathijs
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Date: July 13, 2010 15:07
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I don't know -- Gimme Shelter is a Taylor-era song, isn't it? I'd say my favorite Mick Taylor era songs are Honky Tonk Women,Gimme Shelter, Brown Sugar and Rocks Off -- none of these particularly feature Taylor, as it turns out.
Rocks Off a Taylor song? Taylor can be heard for about 5 seconds in the fade out....
Mathijs
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Date: July 13, 2010 15:12
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So hard to choose... Loving Cup, Moonlight Mile, or CYHMK.
Is Taylor on Loving Cup at all? I don´t think so.
True, maybe he isn't! I can't remember the sleeve credits on that number... for what the sleeve credits back in those days were worth, anyway
But Loving Cup is probably my fav song from the "Taylor era". And yes, before people start typing up a storm, I realise the Stones started working on this song before he joined... As for his playing, on official releases, I think I like his FAT chords on "Little Queenie" Get Yer Ya-Yas... or whatever the hell he is playing on that song, whenever I play it the stereo speakers nearly can't handle the vamping that occurs during the verses... Yes I'll take that particular guitar playing any day over his CYHMK jam (as beautiful as that jam is)Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-07-13 15:51 by bolexman.
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I don't know -- Gimme Shelter is a Taylor-era song, isn't it? I'd say my favorite Mick Taylor era songs are Honky Tonk Women,Gimme Shelter, Brown Sugar and Rocks Off -- none of these particularly feature Taylor, as it turns out.
Rocks Off a Taylor song? Taylor can be heard for about 5 seconds in the fade out....
Mathijs
Isn't that Taylor on the 2nd guitar playing all along the song (the one that comes in after the intro riff)?
C
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I don't know -- Gimme Shelter is a Taylor-era song, isn't it? I'd say my favorite Mick Taylor era songs are Honky Tonk Women,Gimme Shelter, Brown Sugar and Rocks Off -- none of these particularly feature Taylor, as it turns out.
Rocks Off a Taylor song? Taylor can be heard for about 5 seconds in the fade out....
Mathijs
Isn't that Taylor on the 2nd guitar playing all along the song (the one that comes in after the intro riff)?
C
That's a rhetorical question, liddas. Right 'ear' if listening with earphones.
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I don't know -- Gimme Shelter is a Taylor-era song, isn't it? I'd say my favorite Mick Taylor era songs are Honky Tonk Women,Gimme Shelter, Brown Sugar and Rocks Off -- none of these particularly feature Taylor, as it turns out.
Rocks Off a Taylor song? Taylor can be heard for about 5 seconds in the fade out....
Mathijs
Isn't that Taylor on the 2nd guitar playing all along the song (the one that comes in after the intro riff)?
C
That's a rhetorical question, liddas. Right 'ear' if listening with earphones.
Loud and clear.Makes it bit more tasty. To much open G guitarwork make the Stones monotone. Taylor creates the perfect balance .
Re: Best Mick Taylor Era Stones Song
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Date: July 13, 2010 20:14
Street Fighting Man on Ya Ya's
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I don't know -- Gimme Shelter is a Taylor-era song, isn't it? I'd say my favorite Mick Taylor era songs are Honky Tonk Women,Gimme Shelter, Brown Sugar and Rocks Off -- none of these particularly feature Taylor, as it turns out.
Rocks Off a Taylor song? Taylor can be heard for about 5 seconds in the fade out....
Mathijs
Isn't that Taylor on the 2nd guitar playing all along the song (the one that comes in after the intro riff)?
C
That's a rhetorical question, liddas. Right 'ear' if listening with earphones.
Loud and clear.Makes it bit more tasty. To much open G guitarwork make the Stones monotone. Taylor creates the perfect balance .
Stirring up again?
No open G at all on Rocks Off, as you know very well Re: Best Mick Taylor Era Stones Song
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Date: July 14, 2010 01:15
With I'm Not Signifying out officially now we get to listen to Taylor's excellent slide playing. I love his phrasing and his touch, how he sneaks things into the song without overdoing it. Not really soloing, just playing. There's got to be a bunch of songs - an album's worth - where he's doing that.
THAT would make a great comp. I'm gonna work on it.
THAT would make a great comp. I'm gonna work on it.
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Date: July 14, 2010 03:50
I Don't Know Why... brilliant slide playing...
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I don't know -- Gimme Shelter is a Taylor-era song, isn't it? I'd say my favorite Mick Taylor era songs are Honky Tonk Women,Gimme Shelter, Brown Sugar and Rocks Off -- none of these particularly feature Taylor, as it turns out.
Rocks Off a Taylor song? Taylor can be heard for about 5 seconds in the fade out....
Mathijs
Isn't that Taylor on the 2nd guitar playing all along the song (the one that comes in after the intro riff)?
C
That's a rhetorical question, liddas. Right 'ear' if listening with earphones.
Loud and clear.Makes it bit more tasty. To much open G guitarwork make the Stones monotone. Taylor creates the perfect balance .
First, there is no open G guitar on Rocks Off. Aside from the fact that the intro does not use a slackened A string, the intro is played with the same guitar and setup as the remaining guitar on the left channel, and this channel all is Keith on an Ampeg Dan Armstrong or Telecaster (although there are no pics available of a Tele being present at the sessions set-up in standard tuning) through a Fender amp, as is the right channel guitar. So it is:
Intro riff in the left channel: Keith, standard tuning, Armstrong/Tele through Fender amp.
At 0:04 a second guitar enters at the right channel: Keith, standard tuning, Armstrong/Tele through Fender amp.
At: 0:06 a third guitar with out pf phase sound and with reverb enters in the background in the middle of the stereo spectrum. This is Taylor playing a counter melody to the opening riff. This guitar disappears at around 0:16.
Until the middle 8 break there’s only two guitars and a (fantastic!) piano, guitars all Keith, standard tuning. The middle break is again two guitars, all Keith, left channel with added tremolo and right channel with added phase effect.
The two Keith guitars finish the song until a third guitar enters at minus 0:30 playing a counter melody with chords in the same out of phase tone as the third guitar in the intro but without reverb, then at 0:15 this guitar develops in a short lead burst. This guitar is Taylor, and the out of phase tone suggest him playing the Gibson ES-355 with the Varitone set at the third or fourth position.
Mathijs
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Date: July 17, 2010 15:25
Hard to pick one as there are so many
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I don't know -- Gimme Shelter is a Taylor-era song, isn't it? I'd say my favorite Mick Taylor era songs are Honky Tonk Women,Gimme Shelter, Brown Sugar and Rocks Off -- none of these particularly feature Taylor, as it turns out.
Rocks Off a Taylor song? Taylor can be heard for about 5 seconds in the fade out....
Mathijs
Isn't that Taylor on the 2nd guitar playing all along the song (the one that comes in after the intro riff)?
C
That's a rhetorical question, liddas. Right 'ear' if listening with earphones.
Loud and clear.Makes it bit more tasty. To much open G guitarwork make the Stones monotone. Taylor creates the perfect balance .
First, there is no open G guitar on Rocks Off. Aside from the fact that the intro does not use a slackened A string, the intro is played with the same guitar and setup as the remaining guitar on the left channel, and this channel all is Keith on an Ampeg Dan Armstrong or Telecaster (although there are no pics available of a Tele being present at the sessions set-up in standard tuning) through a Fender amp, as is the right channel guitar. So it is:
Intro riff in the left channel: Keith, standard tuning, Armstrong/Tele through Fender amp.
At 0:04 a second guitar enters at the right channel: Keith, standard tuning, Armstrong/Tele through Fender amp.
At: 0:06 a third guitar with out pf phase sound and with reverb enters in the background in the middle of the stereo spectrum. This is Taylor playing a counter melody to the opening riff. This guitar disappears at around 0:16.
Until the middle 8 break there’s only two guitars and a (fantastic!) piano, guitars all Keith, standard tuning. The middle break is again two guitars, all Keith, left channel with added tremolo and right channel with added phase effect.
The two Keith guitars finish the song until a third guitar enters at minus 0:30 playing a counter melody with chords in the same out of phase tone as the third guitar in the intro but without reverb, then at 0:15 this guitar develops in a short lead burst. This guitar is Taylor, and the out of phase tone suggest him playing the Gibson ES-355 with the Varitone set at the third or fourth position.
Mathijs
wow you're amazing man. i listen pretty closely but never have had the natural talent to hear what you hear with such definition and then tech analysis as to equipment and how many layers who played what exact part on what exact instrument...from what exact year and manufacturer...and where the friggin' tree grew before they chopped it down and carved a guitar out of it....
....and where in the pan/mix etc any of these little flourishes or parts are....
.....just brilliant. always love it. one of the things i learn from it is how meticulous their editing and over-dubbing prowess is; they get to the 'point' ...know what is is, instrumentally,musically speaking, in any given section of a song, and just hone it down or build it up to emphasize articulate punctuate...whatever...i'm sure they wouldn't use those words but that's how i feel what i imagine to be their process...and then hone it down editing for whatever thrust lifts the section etc...
i'm guessin' ur probably blessed/cursed with perfect pitch too.
thnx cool post.
impressive here is all the great great songs and great great playing being displayed. just overwhelmingly great classic wonderful eternal performances never to grow old or do ANYTHING other than to really communicate such amazing energy and richness of sound. wow. the rolling stones of the taylor era just beyond comprehending; from bleed to iorr of official releases? never ever gonna be topped ever. can't see it anybody topping that. just can't. and the good news is that it is so vibrant and it's here...it's never lost it's power of persuasion or ferocious sense of engagement. it's sweeping.
i'm stickin' to dance little sister tho. for me, as much as i'm stunned by countless taylor performances on transcendental leads, this double rhythm attack is SO majorly in the depths of the eternal groove that it's miraculous piece of seeming fluff. this grinds so bad. i mean it's super. AND it shows, as do COUNTLESS huge amounts of their hits and other tracks, that taylor understands intuitively how to play WITH another guitarist; at least captain keith...in a RHYTHM context; as well as the obvious angelic grace notes and world war three walls of power...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-07-17 16:16 by Beelyboy.
Re: Best Mick Taylor Era Stones Song
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Date: July 17, 2010 16:31
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Mathijs
First, there is no open G guitar on Rocks Off. Aside from the fact that the intro does not use a slackened A string, the intro is played with the same guitar and setup as the remaining guitar on the left channel, and this channel all is Keith on an Ampeg Dan Armstrong or Telecaster (although there are no pics available of a Tele being present at the sessions set-up in standard tuning) through a Fender amp, as is the right channel guitar. So it is:
Intro riff in the left channel: Keith, standard tuning, Armstrong/Tele through Fender amp.
At 0:04 a second guitar enters at the right channel: Keith, standard tuning, Armstrong/Tele through Fender amp.
At: 0:06 a third guitar with out pf phase sound and with reverb enters in the background in the middle of the stereo spectrum. This is Taylor playing a counter melody to the opening riff. This guitar disappears at around 0:16.
Until the middle 8 break there’s only two guitars and a (fantastic!) piano, guitars all Keith, standard tuning. The middle break is again two guitars, all Keith, left channel with added tremolo and right channel with added phase effect.
The two Keith guitars finish the song until a third guitar enters at minus 0:30 playing a counter melody with chords in the same out of phase tone as the third guitar in the intro but without reverb, then at 0:15 this guitar develops in a short lead burst. This guitar is Taylor, and the out of phase tone suggest him playing the Gibson ES-355 with the Varitone set at the third or fourth position.
Mathijs
That seems a good analysis to me, Mathijs. But how are you so sure it's Keith on the right channel all the way from 0:03 on? The repetitiveness and 'pattern' of this guitar reminds me of Taylor on Bitch. So to me it also could be Taylor. The third guitar during the last 30 sec. is undoubtedly Taylor. Very recognizable.
Re: Best Mick Taylor Era Stones Song
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Date: July 17, 2010 19:29
I like all of the the Mick Taylor songs starting with Honky Tonk Women and ending with Waiting on a Friend.
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I don't know -- Gimme Shelter is a Taylor-era song, isn't it? I'd say my favorite Mick Taylor era songs are Honky Tonk Women,Gimme Shelter, Brown Sugar and Rocks Off -- none of these particularly feature Taylor, as it turns out.
Rocks Off a Taylor song? Taylor can be heard for about 5 seconds in the fade out....
Mathijs
Isn't that Taylor on the 2nd guitar playing all along the song (the one that comes in after the intro riff)?
C
That's a rhetorical question, liddas. Right 'ear' if listening with earphones.
Loud and clear.Makes it bit more tasty. To much open G guitarwork make the Stones monotone. Taylor creates the perfect balance .
Stirring up again?
Did I say that? When I think about the RS I connect it to open G. That must be the error. I didn't even check it.
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I don't know -- Gimme Shelter is a Taylor-era song, isn't it? I'd say my favorite Mick Taylor era songs are Honky Tonk Women,Gimme Shelter, Brown Sugar and Rocks Off -- none of these particularly feature Taylor, as it turns out.
Rocks Off a Taylor song? Taylor can be heard for about 5 seconds in the fade out....
Mathijs
First, there is no open G guitar on Rocks Off. Aside from the fact that the intro does not use a slackened A string, the intro is played with the same guitar and setup as the remaining guitar on the left channel, and this channel all is Keith on an Ampeg Dan Armstrong or Telecaster (although there are no pics available of a Tele being present at the sessions set-up in standard tuning) through a Fender amp, as is the right channel guitar. So it is:
Intro riff in the left channel: Keith, standard tuning, Armstrong/Tele through Fender amp.
At 0:04 a second guitar enters at the right channel: Keith, standard tuning, Armstrong/Tele through Fender amp.
At: 0:06 a third guitar with out pf phase sound and with reverb enters in the background in the middle of the stereo spectrum. This is Taylor playing a counter melody to the opening riff. This guitar disappears at around 0:16.
Until the middle 8 break there’s only two guitars and a (fantastic!) piano, guitars all Keith, standard tuning. The middle break is again two guitars, all Keith, left channel with added tremolo and right channel with added phase effect.
The two Keith guitars finish the song until a third guitar enters at minus 0:30 playing a counter melody with chords in the same out of phase tone as the third guitar in the intro but without reverb, then at 0:15 this guitar develops in a short lead burst. This guitar is Taylor, and the out of phase tone suggest him playing the Gibson ES-355 with the Varitone set at the third or fourth position.
Mathijs
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Re: Best Mick Taylor Era Stones Song
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Date: July 17, 2010 23:15
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That seems a good analysis to me, Mathijs. But how are you so sure it's Keith on the right channel all the way from 0:03 on? The repetitiveness and 'pattern' of this guitar reminds me of Taylor on Bitch. So to me it also could be Taylor.
Well, it's just signature Keith rythm playing, it's something he'd done the years before that and after up to about '80 or so. It's this playing around the '1' that's so typical for the Stones and Keith, and just very a-typical for Taylor. Taylor never ever played liked this, it's just not his strength. Really, it's just very signature Richards playing, just as the last 30 second of lead guitar is signature Taylor playing, beyond any doubt.
Mathijs
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