Im a fan of the 81 tour, its a very intersting one...it was the biggest tour they had at that point and in some ways was more slick, while it still retained the recklessness of the old days. Its A bridge between two eras. My first exposure to this tour was hearing Still Life and I have to say it kind of Freaked me out... it was so Show-Biz sounding to my ears, but over the years this tour has really grown on me.



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Apart from looking at girls' boobs & bashing at United States ,what else does interest you,Helter ?

I mean,apart your own threads .......

You KNOW what I do, we talk on the phone - I praise France (my second home) for good reason, Do Travel and Fashion Photography, listen to music, watch movies, read, and documentaries (I'm an information freak so I try to learn as much as I can). BASH THE USA?.... oh, I can't? Excuse me, when did fascism totally take over cause I missed it, I've been busy studying foreign real estate - like BUENOS AIRES - so when AMERICA falls apart I have a few places to go. I'm also working on an independent film shot on HD VIDEO for SUN DANCE called "IF YOU GO AWAY" (Working Title).

It's about 3 young extremely beautiful self destructive girls who are all on the fast track to disaster through excessive drugs and sex. They don't know each other but they all seem to be living the EXACT same way. One lives in LA, one in Paris, and one in Buenos Aires. They have no self esteem. It will make BLUE VELVET look like SNOW WHITE (a bit of homage to my casual bud Dennis Hooper) It will blow your f*cking mind - 100% sure of it, bring your Xanax (I already find the rough draft very disturbing - but IT IS life - so that says something)

OK,Helter .I probably should not blow out this thread .How do you say , "hitjack "? I apologize to the other posters .
You like France that much ? Then you'll have to learn French .I can teach you if you want 1 euros per minute .Like pay per view
The 1st thing to do when ,as you say,ones praises for a country is to learn its langage & its history .
Btw,I wouldn't give much of your peps after 6 months here in France ......

Don't talk about facism with me .Obviously ,you don't know what facism means .

Buenos Aires ? You must be kidding .A very very good friend of mine is working in Argentina and he tells me how life is over there .

I do get a sense of humor.Not the same as yours .You were the one who didn't get my second degree's joke when I wrote "Apart from looking at girls' boobs & bashing at United States ,what else does interest you,Helter "
Since we talked on the phone I do know what are the other things that interest you .
I can't help it but your sense of humor don't do me .May be it would if I 'd take some Xanax but you know I am not on this stuff .

You want to know which jokes make me laugh ?
When one wrote :"I get "Let's spend the night together " tattoed on my d***."
Ha , that's too bad ,Rockee,that you mentionned only half part of the tattoo -you forgot " andnowiwantyoumorethanever "

Have a nice day everybody .



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

I`m eating food at an hour I shouldn`t be eating as a tribute to ROCKMAN.

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Sway Sway!! it's actually Have You seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing In The Shadows? ...

And it's in brail on the other side!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Apart from looking at girls' boobs & bashing at United States ,what else does interest you,Helter ?

I mean,apart your own threads .......

You KNOW what I do, we talk on the phone - I praise France (my second home) for good reason, Do Travel and Fashion Photography, listen to music, watch movies, read, and documentaries (I'm an information freak so I try to learn as much as I can). BASH THE USA?.... oh, I can't? Excuse me, when did fascism totally take over cause I missed it, I've been busy studying foreign real estate - like BUENOS AIRES - so when AMERICA falls apart I have a few places to go. I'm also working on an independent film shot on HD VIDEO for SUN DANCE called "IF YOU GO AWAY" (Working Title).

It's about 3 young extremely beautiful self destructive girls who are all on the fast track to disaster through excessive drugs and sex. They don't know each other but they all seem to be living the EXACT same way. One lives in LA, one in Paris, and one in Buenos Aires. They have no self esteem. It will make BLUE VELVET look like SNOW WHITE (a bit of homage to my casual bud Dennis Hooper) It will blow your f*cking mind - 100% sure of it, bring your Xanax (I already find the rough draft very disturbing - but IT IS life - so that says something)

Dude you had me with this thread until I read this post. Sorry Helter... your film ideas don't sound very groovy. For starters, when talking up a film project, its best to avoid using the key words "Independent HD video" and "Sundance". It's like saying you wanna start a rock'n'roll band by auditioning for "American Idol". Dare I say it, it's almost as bad as wearing pastel. D'entreprise cliche, comprendre monsieur?

Please don't take this the wrong, way, I'm not giving you a hard time. Just thought I would make a contribution to this conversation. If you wanna start a thread about filmmaking I'll see you there.

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OK,Helter .I probably should not blow out this thread. I apologize to the other posters .
You like France that much ? Then you'll have to learn French .I can teach you if you want 1 euros per minute .Like pay per view
The 1st thing to do when ,as you say,ones praises for a country is to learn its langage & its history AWWW, BRILLIANT POINT SWAY. LIKE HANGING BLACKS IN TREES IN THE SOUTHERN USA IN THE 60'S AND BEFORE - IT'S CALLED LYNCHING. ONE OF THEM COULD HAVE BEEN MUDDY WATERS IF HE WAS UNLUCKY. WHAT A GREAT HISTORY!!! .

Don't talk about facism with me .Obviously ,you don't know what facism means .

Buenos Aires ? You must be kidding .A very very good friend of mine is working in Argentina and he tells me how life is over there .


I do have a sense of humor.Not the same as yours .You were the one who didn't get my second degree's joke What are you talking about?

Since we talked on the phone I do know what are the other things that interest you
Have a nice day everybody .

#1. I don't like France, Correction - I LOVE France and super love PARIS (some people, like Sway, don't know what they have-wonderful France-until its gone. You live in LYON, things might be different there so I don't know. Sure , teach me French for 1 Euro a minute and I'll teach you American English for 2 Euro's per minute (but you'll be up there with Obama's speaking ability - can't beat that sh*t) Don't worry Honey Bunny, I'll have Fluent French down in 6 months when I move there, no problemo

#2 FASCISM? My parents got to Sweden in 1944 (thank you Swedes !!!) to ESCAPE Fascism and then moved to the USA (when it was a great country) in 1950. I was born between 1955 and 1960 in Detroit (WHITE STRIPES, IGGY, MC5, MADONNA) and moved to LA when I was 2 yrs old. Detroit is too cold and a giant mess. My family can tell you a thing or 2 about the evils of Fascism cause they were in the middle of it, you weren't. Bullet holes in their coats from the Nazi guns, Friends exploding within shouting distance from small bombs hitting them, ships exploding as my mom was lucky enough to get on the other one - the non exploding one - headed for MALMO. Nazi Bastards shooting my uncle's 2 beloved dogs right in front of him (Give me a thick, strong stick and 5 minutes in a small room with those Nazi MFer's)..... it goes on and on.... SO, YOU DON'T TELL ME ABOUT FASCISM, what do you know little girl? - I lost plenty of relatives. You see my dear, I'm an American on paper only, I'm an immigrant, a nomad that wants out. The Indians are the only true Americans

#3 BUENOS AIRES. I know at least 6 people who live there. It's like a rough Paris with half the money Paris has, maybe less. SO what, still has gret looking women, great Steak and wine, and is a total cafe society. The apartments (French style) are about 75% cheaper than Paris - I can go for that. Have a nice weekend Madam Sway


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#1. I don't like France, Correction - I LOVE France and super love PARIS (some people, like Sway, don't know what they have-wonderful France-until its gone

You didn't understand a word of what I said on the phone -I guess you didn't listen to me or my English was may be so poor that you're weren't able to understand what I was saying ...well never mind .....
I say very very often how LUCKY I am to live in France ,which is a very pleasant country for many reasons .
I only complain about the French mindset .

#2 FASCISM? My parents got to Sweden in 1944 (thank you Swedes !!!) to ESCAPE Fascism

I know,I know,you already mentionned this to me -I know how to listen someone/somebody .
That's why I can't understand that you dare to talk/talking about fascism refering to the United States .

I'll teach you American English

No,thanks ,I already have a lovely teacher .

great Steak and wine
You should take care of yourself,too much red meat isn't good .



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

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Sway Sway!! it's actually Have You seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing In The Shadows? ...

And it's in brail on the other side!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oops!!!!

I swear it wasn't a Freudian slip ...

Lucian is mighty fine to ain't he......





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You mean Lucian,don't you ?

Btw,I find a similarity /likeness with the depth of his glance & yours .

YEAH YEAH ........ Lucian....spelling mistake



likeness with the depth of his glance & yours .....deep souls



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This thread had so much promise and it has simply gone to the dogs.

Call off your dogs,squando .

Talking with Rockman about a famous painter isn't what I would call "going to the dogs" .....but never mind .

Anyhow,I had alreay read with a lot of care your post on the previous page .


>>Yes it's true (or rather I agree) that Mick looked silly. . He's the biggest fkn rock star on the planet and he looks nothing at all lke a rock star! He shoulda chucked on a pair of 501s with a black studded belt, a simple pair of black flat shoes, maybe a not so gawdy bracelet, a white/black t shirt and a three quarter length black jacket and he woulda had the chics thinking (and alota blokes too I feel) man that fuker looks hot! But let's wear yellow tights instead.
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He already looked silly with the 78's red plastic pants ,didn't he ?
(did you forget the "c" of fuker in order it doesn't become @#$%& ?)

>>Keith: should never have gone near a vocal microphone. Too much showboating and easy to see he is even now completely wrapped up in the bullsh*t of his own myth. Songs played insanely quickly due to him but works for me on this tour for the most part. Playing's great even though his sounds are a bit "yuk" if you will at times.
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Would you mind to reward your thoughts ,I am not sure I get what you mean .



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YEAH YEAH ........ Lucian....spelling mistake



likeness with the depth of his glance & yours .....deep souls

The more I look at Lucian's photo,the more I believe you look alike ....it's amazing !
I would like to see an earlier pic from him in order to compare with yours nowadays .



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Nothing is a big deal when you're 13 (maybe playin' with your pee-pee but that's it). IMHO, Wrong train of thought skipper !!!

The way you are blathering on, accusing people of being 13, and responding to your own inane thread countless times, I'd say YOU are acting like an idiot. And besides, it's the 13 year old kids you need to invigorate with a love of the music...otherwise it's just a bunch of old men whining and complaining about the "Good Ole Days," which are long gone.

Oh, and the "Pastel Tour" sucked ass.

1981 was my first tour. I saw them at Orchard Park and the first Pontiac. In Orchard Park (Buffalo) the wind blew so hard they had to cut the pastels down for fear of the entire stage lifting up and crushing the 20,000 on the floor. The pastels were shaped in the form of a flag etc but the replacement was not. Orchard Park was good because you could hear the band kick it into gear from Tumbling Dice on. The All Down The Line from this show kicked ass. Listen to the audience tape not the soundboard. It was still the Stones with Stu and Mac. They were ragged and raucous. They never played with such abandon again.

stewedandkeefed , what are "pastels "?

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Nothing is a big deal when you're 13 (maybe playin' with your pee-pee but that's it). IMHO, Wrong train of thought skipper !!!

The way you are blathering on, accusing people of being 13, and responding to your own inane thread countless times, I'd say YOU are acting like an idiot. And besides, it's the 13 year old kids you need to invigorate with a love of the music...otherwise it's just a bunch of old men whining and complaining about the "Good Ole Days," which are long gone.

Oh, and the "Pastel Tour" sucked ass.

Pleeeeeeeeeeease, let me know why this tour was called a "pastel one "

Btw,Helter ,pity your -I don't have any doubt about it -interesting question "the First Real True US Stones tour - 1981 ? " turns into a "règlement de compte "
.....blame yourself for it /take it out .....


Btw , La tournée américaine de 1969 sera néanmoins immortalisée par l'album en public Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!, où les riffs de Keith Richards et les solos de Mick Taylor sont d'une efficacité redoutable.

I am such a sweet woman .....you can translate this quote from the wikipédia in English.
Ne me remercie surtout pas . = no thanks needed .

Saw them twice in 82 including the last show at Leeds. A completely different band when they came back at the end of the decade.

I think Mick had looked at other major acts in the late 80's and his own experiencies touring Japan and Australia and brought the idea of a "safe" show to the Stones. Some gains and significant losses IMHO ,but if they hadn't changed the way they did things,I doubt that we would have had a "band" for the last 20 years.

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Saw them twice in 82 including the last show at Leeds. A completely different band when they came back at the end of the decade.

I think Mick had looked at other major acts in the late 80's and his own experiencies touring Japan and Australia and brought the idea of a "safe" show to the Stones. Some gains and significant losses IMHO ,but if they hadn't changed the way they did things,I doubt that we would have had a "band" for the last 20 years.

sc uk

good post. well-informed. succinct. treat yourself to a pint.

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Nothing is a big deal when you're 13 (maybe playin' with your pee-pee but that's it). IMHO, Wrong train of thought skipper !!!

The way you are blathering on, accusing people of being 13, and responding to your own inane thread countless times, I'd say YOU are acting like an idiot. And besides, it's the 13 year old kids you need to invigorate with a love of the music...otherwise it's just a bunch of old men whining and complaining about the "Good Ole Days," which are long gone.

Oh, and the "Pastel Tour" sucked ass.

Pleeeeeeeeeeease, let me know why this tour was called a "pastel one "

Btw,Helter ,pity your -I don't have any doubt about it -interesting question "the First Real True US Stones tour - 1981 ? " turns into a "règlement de compte "
.....blame yourself for it /take it out .....


Btw , La tournée américaine de 1969 sera néanmoins immortalisée par l'album en public Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!, où les riffs de Keith Richards et les solos de Mick Taylor sont d'une efficacité redoutable.

I am such a sweet woman .....you can translate this quote from the wikipédia in English.
Ne me remercie surtout pas . = no thanks needed .

SwayStones, look at some of the pics in this thread. The stage: Pastel Colours.

[www.iorr.org]

Btw: I like your French more than your English.

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SwayStones, look at some of the pics in this thread. The stage: Pastel Colours.

[www.iorr.org]

Btw: I like your French more than your English.

It's not kind .

Many thanks for the link .Comment ai-je pu passer à côté de ce "post" ??

<<Btw: I like your French more than your English<<

Hopefully, it seems that some English native really enjoy my English.....

I like foreign lang(u)ages ....

Il y a quelques années de cela, je pouvais m'exprimer -en cinq langues....it was a long time ago.....what a drag is getting old....and "if you take more of those,you'll take an overdose "

De mens kan niet leven zondar een voortdurend onverwoestbaar zelfvertrouven .
Je n'ai pas copié cette citation sur google,mais sur un carnet qui m'est cher....



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SwayStones, look at some of the pics in this thread. The stage: Pastel Colours.

[www.iorr.org]

Btw: I like your French more than your English.

It's not kind .

Many thanks for the link .Comment ai-je pu passer à côté de ce "post" ??

<<Btw: I like your French more than your English<<

Hopefully, it seems that some English native really enjoy my English.....

I like foreign lang(u)ages ....

Il y a quelques années de cela, je pouvais m'exprimer -en cinq langues....it was a long time ago.....what a drag is getting old....and "if you take more of those,you'll take an overdose "

De mens kan niet leven zondar een voortdurend onverwoestbaar zelfvertrouven .
Je n'ai pas copié cette citation sur google,mais sur un carnet qui m'est cher....

It surely wasn't meant unkindly. My English is just as good or bad as yours. But I like those French sentences. I still have a French course for advanced waiting for me. Well, it has to wait for the winter.

What 5 languages, except French and English? German I guess as well. But then there are two others yet. Italian and Spanish? I don't know either of them, though I can read them for a rather great deal, thanks to Latin and also French.

Never heard of that Dutch saying. 'A constantly indestructable selfconfidence'. Well, that's quite something! Too much for me, at least. I'm only human.

I think that's what Kafka meant .
French,English but not German ....
Open your mind,think to other alphabets ....

>>My English is just as good or bad as yours<<
This is kind but untrue .



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

Hello SwayStones me lady

RE:

He already looked silly with the 78's red plastic pants ,didn't he ?
(did you forget the "c" of fuker in order it doesn't become @#$%& ?)

>>Keith: should never have gone near a vocal microphone. Too much showboating and easy to see he is even now completely wrapped up in the bullsh*t of his own myth. Songs played insanely quickly due to him but works for me on this tour for the most part. Playing's great even though his sounds are a bit "yuk" if you will at times.
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Would you mind to reward your thoughts ,I am not sure I get what you mean .

Yes I agree that he did look silly on the 78 tour as well and those pants were horrid! And yeah that's why I dropped the 'c' in fuk.

As for Keith, I mean his singing (if we wanna call it that) was absolutely disgusting. Listen to him and Ron doing the beautiful Simon and Garfunkle during "Shattered" for example. It's reprehensible. When Keith played in the 60s his playing and singing came first. Gradually however thru the 70s posing and pulling stupid faces that would scare a baby seemed to become more important. "Little T&A" is just cringing to look at. I never dare listen either. Well not anymore. His playing at this stage was still up to scratch although I have read that he fluffed about 70% of the intros to UMT throughout 1981 and 82. And I just don't care for some of the sounds "Start me up", "Satisfaction", "Beast of burden" for eg have hoorid guitar sounds on them for mine. But again overall I love the cd boots and dvd boots I have of the tour and I even like "Still life" even though I think it's a weird misrepresentation of the tour in general. And I love Seattle, Hampton and Arizona.....so there you go hey?

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I think that's what Kafka meant .
French,English but not German ....
Open your mind,think to other alphabets ....

Chinese comes to mind.

Open your mind,think to other alphabets ....






ROCKMAN

You got it Rock !!!

ROCKMAN

Wait, RYAN O'NEAL, MICKEY DOLENZ, CHARLIE WITH THE 1969 US TOUR TOP HAT, and FRANK ZAPPA..... interesting band, did they rock or was bad news?

I can hear a kick ass version I'M NOT YOUR STEPPING STONE right now if I close my eyes !!!