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Re: Scarlet
Date: August 14, 2020 02:07

Not sped up, only a new beat, organ and lots of reverb.

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: August 14, 2020 02:12

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DandelionPowderman
Not sped up, only a new beat, organ and lots of reverb.

Snippet sounds great! Lovin' (what I've heard) the bass.
Is it me or does Keith's back-up vocals seem more pronounced on this?

Can't wait to hear the whole song..

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: August 14, 2020 02:19

Call it what you want - "a new beat"...whatever, sounds ridiculously sped up....seems every bit of vintage heart and soul c. '74 that might have been has been ripped to shreds and annihilated...and not in a good way IMO.
Sounds more and more like a Jagger solo tune...............

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Irix

Reminds me of ABBA's "Lay All Your Love On Me" - which Remix had the most beats per minute .... winking smiley

Had to look that tune up and you're right Irix - the similarities are unmistakable, but I think the new Stones remix is even faster?
Maybe DandelionPowdreman will enlighten us all with the answer....

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-08-14 02:20 by Hairball.

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: August 14, 2020 02:30

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Hairball

Had to look that tune up and you're right Irix - the similarities are unmistakable, but I think the new Stones remix is even faster?

No, I meant the ABBA-Remix itself (not in comparison to the Stones). There was a fast version of "Lay All Your Love On Me". And the joke to the DJ was: "Can you play it even faster?"

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: August 14, 2020 02:33

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Irix
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Hairball

Had to look that tune up and you're right Irix - the similarities are unmistakable, but I think the new Stones remix is even faster?

No, I meant the ABBA-Remix itself (not in comparison to the Stones). There was a fast version of "Lay All Your Love On Me". And the joke to the DJ was: "Can you play it even faster?"

Oh jeez...that original version of "Lay All Your Love On Me" was already fast enough...don't think I could handle the faster remix...

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-08-14 02:34 by Hairball.

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: LeonidP ()
Date: August 14, 2020 05:29

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quietbeatle
I think they do reggae legit...Keith knows. Too Rude was fantastic too.

Of course they do! To suggest otherwise is quite absurd.

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: jbwelda ()
Date: August 14, 2020 07:16

First off, they have never even laid down a proper one drop rhythm. Of course they do not play reggae. They play Stones-reggae. Thats not a criticism, its a fact.


jb

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: August 14, 2020 10:08

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Doxa
Dammit! That works! Sounds the most compact song so far...thumbs up

Now I finally hear there the "hit" Don Was has been talking about... grinning smiley

- Doxa

Yeah, this is the one ... my go-to version from now on!

While I still like the ramshackliness of the other versions, they sounded a bit uneven, still demo-like, in fact a bit like "the band playing actually two songs" as some other poster here commented, but this new version finally sounds cohesive.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-08-14 10:24 by retired_dog.

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: bakersfield ()
Date: August 14, 2020 11:02

I just heard the War on Drugs version. Much as I respect Bruce Rowlands (I think he played with Ronnie Lane?) When I first heard 'Scarlet, the drums sounded to me like a wardrobe repeatedly falling downstairs.

On this WOD remix, with all that crashing and banging removed, I rather enjoy Scarlet as a simple pop tune. The harsh guitar tone still grates on me but this is the first Stones remix that is an improvement on the original IMHO.

Re: Scarlet
Date: August 14, 2020 11:14

Rowlands played in Fairport Convention, no?

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: bakersfield ()
Date: August 14, 2020 11:18

Yep. he played with both according to Wikipedia

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: August 14, 2020 11:22

Damn Good mix .... wish they'd
extended it out and pushed it even
a lil' more inta spaso land at the end ....

But hey its damn fine as it is ....



ROCKMAN

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: KRiffhard ()
Date: August 14, 2020 11:43

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Rockman
Damn Good mix .... wish they'd
extended it out and pushed it even
a lil' more inta spaso land at the end ....

But hey its damn fine as it is ....

thumbs up

Re: Scarlet
Date: August 14, 2020 11:57

The only debatable thing are the "fast" drums on "Scarlet, Scarlet ...". The other parts (intro and outro) have been improved compared to original release.

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: glimmertwin1 ()
Date: August 14, 2020 13:22

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MisterDDDD
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Not sped up, only a new beat, organ and lots of reverb.

Snippet sounds great! Lovin' (what I've heard) the bass.
Is it me or does Keith's back-up vocals seem more pronounced on this?

Can't wait to hear the whole song..

Yes snippet sounds good. But the rest dosen't have this cool bass sound. Sounds more like M. Jagger solo ;-)

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: ironbelly ()
Date: August 14, 2020 13:47

Well... Fortunately, this is no Oh-Oh Hard Dub Extended Dance remix, but very close to something that can be considered as elevator music. Guess, youngsters will like it.

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: john lomax ()
Date: August 14, 2020 13:48

I hate it. Had to turn it off midway. That drumbeat is imbecilic and totally ruins the feel and soul of the song. Sounds like the sort of crap my 12 year old plays on his keyboard.

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: KRiffhard ()
Date: August 14, 2020 13:55

C'mon...listen and enjoy!!!
[youtu.be]

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: August 14, 2020 14:07

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john lomax
I hate it. Had to turn it off midway. That drumbeat is imbecilic and totally ruins the feel and soul of the song. Sounds like the sort of crap my 12 year old plays on his keyboard.

Well, Stones music always was for young people. Old people listen to Grateful Dead and the like.

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: Rip This ()
Date: August 14, 2020 14:40

sticking to the original you tube release and then the Mescal vid release versions....both are really good....the re mix I can live without.

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: quietbeatle ()
Date: August 14, 2020 14:44

I love it. For some reason has a huge David Bowie vibe to me. Can hear him singing to this mix. Or maybe I just need more coffee...

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: August 14, 2020 14:48

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KRiffhard
Quote
Rockman
Damn Good mix .... wish they'd
extended it out and pushed it even
a lil' more inta spaso land at the end ....

But hey its damn fine as it is ....

thumbs up


smileys with beer

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: JohnnySnapps ()
Date: August 14, 2020 15:41

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john lomax
I hate it. Had to turn it off midway. That drumbeat is imbecilic and totally ruins the feel and soul of the song. Sounds like the sort of crap my 12 year old plays on his keyboard.


I'm with you on this one. Overall, Scarlet hasn't really impressed me. It's a good jam, but there's no signature riff really. For me, Charlie's drums do a lot for the feel of the song. Take them away and the song just falls flat. Many, many years ago, I used to have a Casiotone keyboard for basic drum rhythms on my home recordings. These drums reminded me of that...

I'm a life long Stones fan, and I really dig a lot of their remixes, but, imho, this one............kinda sucks.

Re: Scarlet
Date: August 14, 2020 16:04

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JohnnySnapps
Quote
john lomax
I hate it. Had to turn it off midway. That drumbeat is imbecilic and totally ruins the feel and soul of the song. Sounds like the sort of crap my 12 year old plays on his keyboard.


I'm with you on this one. Overall, Scarlet hasn't really impressed me. It's a good jam, but there's no signature riff really. For me, Charlie's drums do a lot for the feel of the song. Take them away and the song just falls flat. Many, many years ago, I used to have a Casiotone keyboard for basic drum rhythms on my home recordings. These drums reminded me of that...

I'm a life long Stones fan, and I really dig a lot of their remixes, but, imho, this one............kinda sucks.

Charlie doesn't play on Scarlet, Bruce Rowlands did.

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: Norbert ()
Date: August 14, 2020 17:05

Crap!

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: LeonidP ()
Date: August 14, 2020 17:05

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jbwelda
First off, they have never even laid down a proper one drop rhythm. Of course they do not play reggae. They play Stones-reggae. Thats not a criticism, its a fact.

jb

Okay, expert. For one thing, reggae is more about feeling, style, offbeat rhythm & percussion, which the Stones have mastered quite well. And another is that it is just as much about social commentary/politics or sometimes just about feeling good or in the mood. Stones handle that quite well too.

But, I'm no expert, don't go by me...

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: NeddieFlanders ()
Date: August 14, 2020 17:25

Two different The War On Drugs Remixes - not it gets confusing:

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[www.youtube.com]

N

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: August 14, 2020 17:41

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NeddieFlanders
Two different The War On Drugs Remixes - not it gets confusing:

[www.youtube.com]

[www.youtube.com]

N

Yeah, at least edited differently. The second one has an outro that has vocals mixed much lower in the mix and doesn't fade away, but ends up with a drum track.

But why confusing? Nice to have variants. I find it interesting.

- Doxa

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: deardoctor ()
Date: August 14, 2020 17:51

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JohnnySnapps
Quote
john lomax
I hate it. Had to turn it off midway. That drumbeat is imbecilic and totally ruins the feel and soul of the song. Sounds like the sort of crap my 12 year old plays on his keyboard.


I'm with you on this one. Overall, Scarlet hasn't really impressed me. It's a good jam, but there's no signature riff really. For me, Charlie's drums do a lot for the feel of the song. Take them away and the song just falls flat. Many, many years ago, I used to have a Casiotone keyboard for basic drum rhythms on my home recordings. These drums reminded me of that...

I'm a life long Stones fan, and I really dig a lot of their remixes, but, imho, this one............kinda sucks.

I was not very happy with the confused drums of that session guy.
If you would remove Bills bass and Charlies drums, I would go with you.
But in this case nothing is destroyed.
The bass-guy constantly playing like a lead guitar sucked as well.
Now it's cleaned and as always a matter of taste.
I like it.

Re: Scarlet
Posted by: CousinC ()
Date: August 14, 2020 18:09

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DandelionPowderman
Like it thumbs up

Yeah.
Me too!

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