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Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: May 17, 2009 16:58

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Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: midnrambler ()
Date: May 17, 2009 17:37

"Trouble In Mind" is on the B-side of the 7" single that came with the "Weissbuch"(White Book).
There are a lot of instrumentals from the Pathé Marconi Studios and Compass Point Studios (and others), some of them have titles on the bootlegs you listed above, but no one knows for sure if these are really these songs.
"Hellhound On My Trail" is on the "Alternates" LP (OBR)



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Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: May 17, 2009 17:41

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Honestman
Hi,


I've worked on the Martin ELLIOTT'Book trying to list all the songs
that are definively lost or still unedited!
This book is a must-have for all fans, but it goes from Home Recordings to 2002!
Updated it is neccessary, because some songs previously unreleased are edited now!

Only one album recorded since 2002 (with no known unreleased songs) and only a few songs newly in circulation (most of them alternate versions of released songs) is hardly grounds for the author bothering with another update IMO.

Most of what has circulated since then shouldnt be too hard for the reader to track down themselves.

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: May 17, 2009 20:29

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Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Macman15 ()
Date: May 18, 2009 00:02

Im likely stating the obvious here but I think the following can be found on VGP Place Pigalle 4CD but it is as exactly as Gazza stated wherein many tracks we dont have confirmation of a proper name so they are simply listed by these names.

Place Pigalle VGP :
48.Slow down and stop (Musicland 1973)
54.After hours (Pathe Marconi 1978)
58.Guess I should know (Compass Point 1979)


Was #64 on Rogue records Undercover Outtakes CD (w/Keith on voc.)? Im away from home and cant readily check it out.
64.These arms of mine ((Pathe Marconi 1985)

Yes OBR alternates as midnrambler stated
67.Hellhound on my trail (Blue Wave studios 1989)

Thanks for bringing this topic up HMN but Hell I think my post is basically worthless now come to think of it!?!;-)

Yeah I would also like to know as much as possible toward the missing tracks!!!

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: May 18, 2009 00:21

Could number 19/Panama Powder be an instrumental from "Between The Buttons" sessions ??(in Roy Carr's book ??? )



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: May 18, 2009 02:02

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Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: May 18, 2009 02:13

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Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: lunar!!! ()
Date: May 21, 2009 05:24

MESS WITH FIRE was lost in a fire (go figure) 39 AND HOLDING is on the dirty work hotel jams disc and how about PUTTY IN YOUR HANDS--snippets can be heard on the dirty work early rehearsal discs--about 45 seconds or so..

STONES JAM!! MICKEYS RULES!!! (burp) NADER IN 2016!!!!! GO GIANTS!!

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: May 21, 2009 05:34

PUTTY IN YOUR HANDS....
Yeah Bill has mentioned in interview & The Shirelles version is great ...



ROCKMAN

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: May 21, 2009 13:31

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Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Zack ()
Date: May 21, 2009 14:17

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Rockman
PUTTY IN YOUR HANDS....
Yeah Bill has mentioned in interview & The Shirelles version is great ...

Is that the same one the Yardbirds did? (You say hop and I'll hop/You say stop and I'll stop)

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: May 21, 2009 15:10

It is the same song.

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: May 21, 2009 15:13

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Macman15
Im likely stating the obvious here but I think the following can be found on VGP Place Pigalle 4CD but it is as exactly as Gazza stated wherein many tracks we dont have confirmation of a proper name so they are simply listed by these names.

I dont think I DID say that actually, macman....LOL

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: May 26, 2009 21:14

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Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: June 1, 2009 11:15

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Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: June 1, 2009 11:51

24.Blow me Mama (Olympic 1967)
25.Manhole cover (Olympic 1967)
&
29.Hold on I'm coming (RG Jones Studio 1968)

...sounds like sumfin' to lay yer ears on!

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: June 1, 2009 12:02

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Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: zumabitch ()
Date: June 1, 2009 16:24

well in fact a song named "manhole cover" sounds "curious" at least, a hembryonal work that evolved into "turd on the run"?

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: June 1, 2009 17:28

"Blow Me, Mama" was apparently a very real contender for official release. ABKCO registered a copyright for the recording in 1973. As most of you are doubtless aware, it is very rare for unreleased Jagger-Richards songs to be published or copyrighted.

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: June 1, 2009 21:08

Manhole cover could have been an early version of c#@#@#@# BLUES??

HMN

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: June 2, 2009 11:41

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Honestman
.11.No one knows (De Lane Lea studios 1964)
.HMN

Wasn't "No One Knows "realesed on "The Rolling Stones Files 1961/1964 "?



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: June 2, 2009 15:29

I can just hear the chorus..."Oh, where can I get my manhole covered?"

ROLLING STONES FILES wasn't an official release, but I'm pretty sure "No One Knows" was only a brief clip taken from the common medley of early Jagger/Richards songs that have been circulating since the eighties.

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: vudicus ()
Date: June 2, 2009 15:32

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Baboon Bro
24.Blow me Mama (Olympic 1967)
25.Manhole cover (Olympic 1967)
&
29.Hold on I'm coming (RG Jones Studio 1968)

...sounds like sumfin' to lay yer ears on!

I think Hold On, I'm Coming is part of the Surrey Rehearsal tape from 1968 that's in circulation. It's just a loose jam on the chord progression if I remember correctly and is nothing to get too excited about.

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: June 2, 2009 15:34

Yeah, the copy I heard I couldn't even tell it was the Sam & Dave song.

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: vudicus ()
Date: June 2, 2009 15:40

I would also guess that:

Travelling Tiger is actually "Travellin' Man" which is in circulation on several bootlegs.

"Heatwave" and "Freeway Jam" can be heard on the Rotterdam rehearsal tapes from 1975. Heatwave is just a jam and freeway jam is Keith and Jeff Beck playing together on Jeffs tune.

"Break Away" is in circulation on the "All Mixed Up" bootleg if I remember correctly.

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: toomuchforme ()
Date: June 2, 2009 16:43

Carnival to Rio is on a boot. Short version

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: June 2, 2009 17:10

Is the Jah Wonderful from Pathe Marconi Paris,10.10 - 11.25 -12.5 1977 the same as Jah is not Dead ? What about "Once You Start " and " Covered In Bruises " ?


And "We Are Ripped On Down "Pathe Marconi 1.5 - 3.2 1978 ??



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: June 2, 2009 17:15

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Re: Definitively unreleased or Lost?
Posted by: TravellinMan ()
Date: June 2, 2009 17:41

Sympathy for Slowhand New York 6/22/1975, 2 cdrs.

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