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OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: DocL ()
Date: September 6, 2008 10:36

From Yahoo news (Shades of Springteen and Reagan!):

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The rock group Heart, angry that its '70s hit "Barracuda" is being used as the unofficial theme song for Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin, is taking aim at the Alaska governor.


The song, a nod to the "Sarah Barracuda" nickname Palin earned on the basketball court in high school, was dusted off for her appearance at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul on Wednesday.

Heart singers Ann and Nancy Wilson said a "cease-and-desist" letter has been sent to the Republicans asking them not to use the song.

"The Republican campaign did not ask for permission to use the song, nor would they have been granted that permission," according to a statement issued late on Thursday on behalf of the sisters.

The McCain campaign said it had obtained the appropriate licenses to play the song.

"The McCain campaign respects intellectual property rights," spokesman Brian Rogers said. "Accordingly, prior to using 'Barracuda' at any events, we paid for and obtained all necessary licenses."

Last month, rocker Jackson Browne sued Republican presidential candidate John McCain, the Republican National Committee and the Ohio Republican Party, accusing them of using his 1977 hit "Running on Empty" in a campaign ad without permission.

Copyright law may not be on the Wilsons' side as the song is licensed for public performance under a blanket fee paid by the venue to ASCAP, the firm that collects royalties on behalf of composers and copyright owners.

Despite the Wilson sisters' objections, one of the song's co-writers said he was "thrilled" that the song was used.

In an e-mail to Reuters, the band's former guitarist, Roger Fisher, said it was a win-win situation. Heart gets publicity and royalties, while the Republicans benefit from "the ingenious placement of a kick-ass song," Fisher said.

But in a subsequent email, Fisher said he strongly endorsed the Democratic ticket, and would donate a portion of royalties he receives from the Republicans' airing of "Barracuda" to the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama.

"With my contribution to Obama's campaign, the Republicans are now supporting Obama," he said.

Fisher and the Wilsons wrote "Barracuda" with drummer Michael DeRosier. It appeared on the group's second album, "Little Queen" in 1977. The song was inspired by the band's anger over an obnoxious record label executive.

(Reporting by Dean Goodman; editing by Jill Serjeant)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-09-06 10:37 by DocL.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: September 6, 2008 10:49

Stupid, Stupid, Smart?

It's only OK for Democrats to play Rock & Roll, but not Republicans I guess (except for Ted Nugent).

The way copyright laws work and the way the deals have been set up with BMI and ASCAP, It basically gives the right for someone to use a song, as long as they pay the fees and go thru the proper licensing channels.

Threatening law suits is stupid if the license was obtained legally.

For an artist to come out and express disapproval of a candidate using a song and saying they will donate the proceeds to the other candidate, now that's a smart move.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 6, 2008 15:42

Maybe someone can post the lyrics to "Barracuda". I very much doubt there would be ANYTHING in the lyrics that REMOTELY applies to Sarah or her political beliefs. The first time I laid eyes on her, my first thought was "Tina Fey is sure gonna have fun with this!"

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: boston2006 ()
Date: September 6, 2008 15:53

Quote
tatters
Maybe someone can post the lyrics to "Barracuda". I very much doubt there would be ANYTHING in the lyrics that REMOTELY applies to Sarah or her political beliefs. The first time I laid eyes on her, my first thought was "Tina Fey is sure gonna have fun with this!"

Ask and you shall receive .

Barracuda

So this aint the end -
I saw you again today
I had to turn my heart away
Smiled like the sun -
Kisses for real
And tales - it never fails!

You lying so low in the weeds
I bet you gonna ambush me
Youd have me down down down down on my knees
Now wouldnt you, barracuda?

Back over time we were all
Trying for free
You met the porpoise and me
No right no wrong, selling a song-
A name, whisper game.

If the real thing dont do the trick
You better make up something quick
You gonna burn burn burn burn it to the wick
Ooooooh, barracuda?

Sell me sell you the porpoise said
Dive down deep down to save my head
You...i think you got the blues too.

All that night and all the next
Swam without looking back
Made for the western pools - silly fools!

If the real thing dont do the trick
No, you better make up something quick
You gonna burn burn burn burn it to the wick
Ooooooohhhh, barra barracuda.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 6, 2008 16:00

So .... McCain is the porpoise?

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: custom55 ()
Date: September 6, 2008 16:12

To me "Barracuda" has negative connotations so I think it's fitting song for her.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 6, 2008 16:57

I always thought "the real thing" was a sly reference to cocaine, but upon reading these lyrics, I've decided that I have absolutely no idea what this song is supposed to be about.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-09-06 16:58 by tatters.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: September 6, 2008 17:46

And Heart totally stole the rhythm (bass and drums) from Led Zeppelin's Achilles Last Stand, so McCain better be careful or Jimmy Page is going to conjure up the mumified remains of Aleister Crowley and lay some serious bad mojo on his ass.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-09-06 18:06 by ohnonotyouagain.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: cbtaco19 ()
Date: September 6, 2008 17:46

Quote
tatters
So .... McCain is the porpoise?

Close. It turns out the McCain was the walrus.confused smiley

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: September 6, 2008 17:51

Is it just me or is Palin kind of hot? I'm a diehard Democrat so I wouldn't vote for her, but she's got kind of a naughty librarian thing going on. And she does look a lot like Tina Fey, who I also think is hot, so she's got that going for her. If McCain's heart explodes on the campaign trail Palin is going to get an Amy Pohler look-alike to be her new vice-president and together they will comprise the hotest presedential ticket ever.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: September 6, 2008 18:06

I know about the overdue book ... you've been a very bad boy and must be punished!


Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: September 6, 2008 18:45

The song is a complete rip off of Zep's Achilles Last Stand - specifically the drum beat and charging rhythm.
Heart should be sued by Zep, and then they can kiss my ass (just the skinny sister, not the fat one please).




Edit -Didn't see your post above ohnonotyouagain, but agree that "McCain better be careful or Jimmy Page
is going to conjure up the mumified remains of Aleister Crowley and lay some serious bad mojo on his ass".

smileys with beer



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-09-06 18:50 by Hairball.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: September 6, 2008 18:53

It's not about the dems only playing rock - maybe it's they just don't piss people off?

The last thing this country needs is a zealot from Alaska with their bridge to nowhere as a vice president ruining the cuntry. I mean running the country.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: boston2006 ()
Date: September 6, 2008 19:03

Sarah Palins High School photo


Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: TooTough ()
Date: September 6, 2008 19:17

I think Lou Reed would give his song below to the Republicans for free:

LOU REED - Sex With Your Parents

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I was thinking of things that I hate to do, -sex with your parents
Things you do to me or I do to you, baby, -sex with your parents
Something fatter or uglier than Rush Rambo
Something more disgusting than Robert Dole
Something pink that climbs out of a hole
And there it was - sex with your parents

I was getting so sick of this right wing republican shit
These ugly old man scared of young tit and dick
So I try to think of something that made me sick
And there it was - sex with your parents
Now these old @#$%& can steal all they want
And they can go and pass laws saying you can't say what you want
And you can't look at this and you can't look at that
And you can't smoke this and you can't snort that
And me baby - I got statistics - I got stats
These people have been to bed with their parents

Now I know you're shocked but hang and have a brew
If you think about it for a minute you know that it's true
They're ashamed and repelled and they don't know what to do
They've had sex with their parents
When they looked into their lovers eyes they saw - mom
In the name of the family values we must ask whose family
In the name of the family values we must ask
Senator
It's has been reported that you have had
Illegal congress with your mother, - sex with your parents
Senator
An illegal congress by proxy is a
Pigeon by any other name, - sex with your parents

Senators you polish a turd
Here in the big city we got a word
For those who would bed their beloved big bird
And make a mockery of our freedoms
Without even using a condom
Without even saying " no "
By god we have a name for people like that
It's - hey motherfvcker

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: sweetcharmedlife ()
Date: September 6, 2008 20:32

Youd have me down down down down on my knees


Yeah I can see this as a theme song for Pallin.tongue sticking out smiley

"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: September 6, 2008 20:45

                                  |
McCain / Palin     -1             |      Obama / Biden      +1 
(I am scared of these two)        |      (I hope it's real change)
----------------------------------+------------------------------------
Heart              +1             |      Bon Jovi           +0 
(I like some of their songs       |       +1 for supporting Obama 
and they snubbed the republicans) |       -1 they suck musically
                                  |       =0 Total

                                         GO OBAMA!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-09-07 03:05 by schillid.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: FrankM ()
Date: September 6, 2008 22:00

Quote
sweetcharmedlife
Youd have me down down down down on my knees


Yeah I can see this as a theme song for Pallin.tongue sticking out smiley

Nice to see the same old uneducated slobs chirping about politics. Some things never change at iorr.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: FrankM ()
Date: September 6, 2008 22:02

Anne Wilson should focus on laying off the lasagna and getting into shape so she may have some credibility onstage- instead of looking like Rosie O'Donnel's stunt double.

"Lyin' awake in a cold, cold sweat. Am I overdrawn, am I going in debt?
It gets worse, the older that you get. No escape from the state of confusion I'm in.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: sweetcharmedlife ()
Date: September 6, 2008 22:04

Quote
FrankM
Quote
sweetcharmedlife
Youd have me down down down down on my knees


Yeah I can see this as a theme song for Pallin.tongue sticking out smiley

Nice to see the same old uneducated slobs chirping about politics. Some things never change at iorr.

Yeah,like you and your dramatic goodbyes.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: FrankM ()
Date: September 6, 2008 22:13

Quote
sweetcharmedlife
Quote
FrankM
Quote
sweetcharmedlife
Youd have me down down down down on my knees


Yeah I can see this as a theme song for Pallin.tongue sticking out smiley

Nice to see the same old uneducated slobs chirping about politics. Some things never change at iorr.

Yeah,like you and your dramatic goodbyes.

What was that two years ago dummy? I would never say goodbye if it were for the majority of the people here. It's only buttholes like you that turn this place into a drag.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: September 6, 2008 22:21

you can tell a post is from an educated person when They use words like "dummy" and "butthole"



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008-09-06 22:41 by ryanpow.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: aslecs ()
Date: September 6, 2008 22:38

obama is a fraud!And connected to that terrorist - William Ayers

Go McCain/Palin

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: FrankM ()
Date: September 6, 2008 22:47

Quote
ryanpow
you can tell a post is from an educated person when They use words like "dummy" and "butthole"

Well your original post was quite educated Ryan and you made a good point. Not sure why you changed it just to attack me. Are you SCL's secret lover or something?

Good point aslecs. I'm with you.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: sweetcharmedlife ()
Date: September 6, 2008 22:50

Quote
FrankM
Quote
ryanpow
you can tell a post is from an educated person when They use words like "dummy" and "butthole"

Well your original post was quite educated Ryan and you made a good point. Not sure why you changed it just to attack me. Are you SCL's secret lover or something?

Good point aslecs. I'm with you.

How very right wing of you Frank. It's because of wack jobs like you that politics can't be discussed on this board.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: FrankM ()
Date: September 6, 2008 22:52

Quote
sweetcharmedlife
Quote
FrankM
Quote
ryanpow
you can tell a post is from an educated person when They use words like "dummy" and "butthole"

Well your original post was quite educated Ryan and you made a good point. Not sure why you changed it just to attack me. Are you SCL's secret lover or something?

Good point aslecs. I'm with you.

How very right wing of you Frank. It's because of wack jobs like you that politics can't be discussed on this board.

Nah the only wack jobs are you left wing nuts on this board. I try to see both sides of an issue unlike you far left wackadoos.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: cc ()
Date: September 6, 2008 22:56

FrankM, how about an update on Heart's sales figures? This is where you usually bring those stats up as evidence for artistic merit.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: Tornandfrayed ()
Date: September 6, 2008 23:07

Jeez, here we go again...

if you guys HAVE to discuss politics on a Stones board just go to Rocks Off (even though I personally don´t consider it a Stones board)... the place where I guarantee you´ll find more posts containing the word "Obama" than the words "Rolling Stones".

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: cc ()
Date: September 6, 2008 23:14

Quote
Tornandfrayed
Jeez, here we go again...

if you guys HAVE to discuss politics on a Stones board just go to Rocks Off (even though I personally don´t consider it a Stones board)... the place where I guarantee you´ll find more posts containing the word "Obama" than the words "Rolling Stones".

typical--it's always the conservative who wants to cut off discussion and pretend that that's not a "political" decision. Compare Palin's current total avoidance of open q&a sessions.

Re: OT: Band Heart Tells McCain/Palin To Stop
Posted by: Edith Grove ()
Date: September 6, 2008 23:39

Quote
ohnonotyouagain
Is it just me or is Palin kind of hot?

Oh no! It's not just you again!






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