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Um, pretty far off. The lyrics are published, you could look them up.
Tele, why didn't you say that earlier, that we could look the right lyrics up? Would have saved much time, posts and a very long thread.
Btw: where are those published right lyrics to find? And what do they say about the kissing, the cut and the can or Cannes? You are hiding the clues long enough for the rest of us.
You have overwhelmed me with your brilliant sarcasm and clearly superior intellect. What an idiot I was for posting anything.
No, not as "rock and roll". What about boogie?
Boogie is correct, I think. Too bluesy and swampy for rock & roll.
OK, in one sense, yeah...That's how it started. Then rock & roll became something called "Rock" (as championed by Pete Townshend, et. al) and went away from its boogie roots. So "Casino Boogie" you could say was real rock & roll.
Boogie is not rock and roll and thus ...
I don't think CB is jazzy at all...I hear strains of Slim Harpo and John Lee Hooker. But the two-part harmonies add a unique element usually not found in blue or boogie. Certainly open to interpretation what is rock & roll and what isn't.
Boogie and jazz are "related", yes, but "Casino Boogie" is not jazz, IMO. Don't mean to split hairs here. It's a somewhat arcane argument as to where blues ends and jazz begins. Some feel jazz is a blues form and some don't. Regardless, I have better things to do on a fine Sunday afternoon than argue about what is and isn't jazz. Casino Boogie is a great swampy, bluesy track full of snaking guitars, mysterious lyrics and achingly lovely harmony singing, backed up by a juke joint groove; and that's good enough for me!
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2010-04-04 22:59 by 71Tele.
But you seem still pissed off and have better things to do. Well, go ahead and enjoy. Here it's evening, so we al wear white on our bikes. Holland, you know.
I thought still pissed off because of my "sarcastic" remarks about the lyrics, remember? Are your really regularly here in Holland? For business or pleasure, if I may ask? Well, next time pay a visit to my humble house (we promise each other not to discuss the differences between jazz, rock and blues, but to praise Taylor all the time). Btw: I would never go to the US. I can't imagine why my wife would like to visit NY. Seen more than enough of it on tv.
Now I AM pissed off at your diss of my city of birth - New York. Not really, but you should actually visit before making a judgment. You really are missing something...I have not been to Holland in a few years. Was last there to switch planes last year, so that doesn't really count. I was there the time before to see Tom Waits and had an amazing time. I am a big fan of your "brown bars" and jinevoort (spelling?). Thank you for the invitation and we can argue all night about differences between rock, blues and jazz over the beverage of your choice. Those are the kinds of arguments I enjoy. There is a direct flight on KLM/Northwest between Seattle, where I live, and Amsterdam.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-04-05 18:53 by 71Tele.
71Tele: New York is amazing indeed.Ive been there ,2 month before 9-11.
Very surrealistic,especially Manhattan.Very sunny days,but still a lot of shadow.
Great jazz club circuit,and the Marshall chess-club,where Bobby Fischer started his stunning chess career.It's gone I red somewhere...I stayed at the Chelsea Hotel, which has lost a part of it's charm due to a new owner.Many famous people lived there..
And MS Garden,I was 32 late I realized
If you get the chance to visit Amsterdam ,do it, you cannot compare it to NYC,but it's worth a visit.
Evidence.
i'd say verdict reached and case closed! the judge and jury just walked out, hand in hand of course.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
skipstone
()
Date: April 3, 2010 19:00
What the intro to/of Tumbling Dice is based on...
I thought it was "based on" just some messing about, a typical blues lick slide, no big deal. And if that is what your point was, then you might as well go back to You Can't Always Get What You Want or for that matter even 19th Nervous Breakdown simply because I've never read anything about what it's "based on", it's just something Keith came up with I GUESS, sort of his similar way of his fingers fell in the right place (
) for Can't You Hear Me Knocking.
Alas, it is moot.
I thought it was "based on" just some messing about, a typical blues lick slide, no big deal. And if that is what your point was, then you might as well go back to You Can't Always Get What You Want or for that matter even 19th Nervous Breakdown simply because I've never read anything about what it's "based on", it's just something Keith came up with I GUESS, sort of his similar way of his fingers fell in the right place (
) for Can't You Hear Me Knocking.Alas, it is moot.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
Pietro
()
Date: April 4, 2010 01:37
This thread is funny. What is Casino Boogie about? It's just another mystery on the Exile album, another gem to turn over in your mind and ponder. I must've listened to the song 500 times, and until today, I never read or cared to read the official lyrics. Here's what I heard:
No girl, can’t speak, wound up, no heat
Skydiver insider, skip rope stunt flyer
One dead lover got no time off hand
One less sack of, jailbreak on the sand
Awful business, no to understand
Judge and jury walk out hand in hand
Ice rink movies, close-up doggies
Kissing cousins can
Grotesque music, million-dollar sham
Got no tactics, got no time off hand
Left shoe shuffle, right shoe muffle
Sinking in the sand
Fate and freedom stayed and she done
Washed that hat in black
Fate got plenty, got to time off hand..
**************
Laugh if you want, but that is my interpretation, and I'm sticking to it.
No girl, can’t speak, wound up, no heat
Skydiver insider, skip rope stunt flyer
One dead lover got no time off hand
One less sack of, jailbreak on the sand
Awful business, no to understand
Judge and jury walk out hand in hand
Ice rink movies, close-up doggies
Kissing cousins can
Grotesque music, million-dollar sham
Got no tactics, got no time off hand
Left shoe shuffle, right shoe muffle
Sinking in the sand
Fate and freedom stayed and she done
Washed that hat in black
Fate got plenty, got to time off hand..
**************
Laugh if you want, but that is my interpretation, and I'm sticking to it.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
71Tele
()
Date: April 4, 2010 02:30
Quote
Pietro
This thread is funny. What is Casino Boogie about? It's just another mystery on the Exile album, another gem to turn over in your mind and ponder. I must've listened to the song 500 times, and until today, I never read or cared to read the official lyrics. Here's what I heard:
No girl, can’t speak, wound up, no heat
Skydiver insider, skip rope stunt flyer
One dead lover got no time off hand
One less sack of, jailbreak on the sand
Awful business, no to understand
Judge and jury walk out hand in hand
Ice rink movies, close-up doggies
Kissing cousins can
Grotesque music, million-dollar sham
Got no tactics, got no time off hand
Left shoe shuffle, right shoe muffle
Sinking in the sand
Fate and freedom stayed and she done
Washed that hat in black
Fate got plenty, got to time off hand..
**************
Laugh if you want, but that is my interpretation, and I'm sticking to it.
Um, pretty far off. The lyrics are published, you could look them up.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
Pietro
()
Date: April 4, 2010 03:24
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71TeleQuote
Pietro
Um, pretty far off. The lyrics are published, you could look them up.
I can? Well dog my cats! But as I mentioned in my post, I've been listening to the song since 1972, and back in those days you couldn't look up the lyrics.
But I'll be sure to take your advice for now on 71Tele. You betcha! I'll look up the lyrics every chance I get. I'll look 'em up before I even listen to the song so I can be sure to get 'em right!
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
71Tele
()
Date: April 4, 2010 04:37
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PietroQuote
71TeleQuote
Pietro
Um, pretty far off. The lyrics are published, you could look them up.
I can? Well dog my cats! But as I mentioned in my post, I've been listening to the song since 1972, and back in those days you couldn't look up the lyrics.
But I'll be sure to take your advice for now on 71Tele. You betcha! I'll look up the lyrics every chance I get. I'll look 'em up before I even listen to the song so I can be sure to get 'em right!
OK, point taken. No need to be a jerk.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
whitem8
()
Date: April 4, 2010 14:13
Well it seems the latest issue of Uncut clears up the delema...and the published lyrics look to be correct with KCC. Yay! Love that line!
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: April 4, 2010 15:50
Quote
71TeleQuote
Pietro
This thread is funny. What is Casino Boogie about? It's just another mystery on the Exile album, another gem to turn over in your mind and ponder. I must've listened to the song 500 times, and until today, I never read or cared to read the official lyrics. Here's what I heard:
No girl, can’t speak, wound up, no heat
Skydiver insider, skip rope stunt flyer
One dead lover got no time off hand
One less sack of, jailbreak on the sand
Awful business, no to understand
Judge and jury walk out hand in hand
Ice rink movies, close-up doggies
Kissing cousins can
Grotesque music, million-dollar sham
Got no tactics, got no time off hand
Left shoe shuffle, right shoe muffle
Sinking in the sand
Fate and freedom stayed and she done
Washed that hat in black
Fate got plenty, got to time off hand..
**************
Laugh if you want, but that is my interpretation, and I'm sticking to it.
Um, pretty far off. The lyrics are published, you could look them up.
Tele, why didn't you say that earlier, that we could look the right lyrics up? Would have saved much time, posts and a very long thread.
Btw: where are those published right lyrics to find? And what do they say about the kissing, the cut and the can or Cannes? You are hiding the clues long enough for the rest of us.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
71Tele
()
Date: April 4, 2010 20:20
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kleermakerQuote
71TeleQuote
Pietro
This thread is funny. What is Casino Boogie about? It's just another mystery on the Exile album, another gem to turn over in your mind and ponder. I must've listened to the song 500 times, and until today, I never read or cared to read the official lyrics. Here's what I heard:
No girl, can’t speak, wound up, no heat
Skydiver insider, skip rope stunt flyer
One dead lover got no time off hand
One less sack of, jailbreak on the sand
Awful business, no to understand
Judge and jury walk out hand in hand
Ice rink movies, close-up doggies
Kissing cousins can
Grotesque music, million-dollar sham
Got no tactics, got no time off hand
Left shoe shuffle, right shoe muffle
Sinking in the sand
Fate and freedom stayed and she done
Washed that hat in black
Fate got plenty, got to time off hand..
**************
Laugh if you want, but that is my interpretation, and I'm sticking to it.
Um, pretty far off. The lyrics are published, you could look them up.
Tele, why didn't you say that earlier, that we could look the right lyrics up? Would have saved much time, posts and a very long thread.
Btw: where are those published right lyrics to find? And what do they say about the kissing, the cut and the can or Cannes? You are hiding the clues long enough for the rest of us.
You have overwhelmed me with your brilliant sarcasm and clearly superior intellect. What an idiot I was for posting anything.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
drewmaster
()
Date: April 4, 2010 20:41
To change the subject slightly, do you consider this song to be a "rock and roll" song? If not, what genre of music would you categorize it as?
Drew
Drew
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: April 4, 2010 20:47
Quote
drewmaster
To change the subject slightly, do you consider this song to be a "rock and roll" song? If not, what genre of music would you categorize it as?
Drew
No, not as "rock and roll". What about boogie?
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
71Tele
()
Date: April 4, 2010 21:32
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kleermakerQuote
drewmaster
To change the subject slightly, do you consider this song to be a "rock and roll" song? If not, what genre of music would you categorize it as?
Drew
No, not as "rock and roll". What about boogie?
Boogie is correct, I think. Too bluesy and swampy for rock & roll.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
sweetcharmedlife
()
Date: April 4, 2010 21:35
Boogie is rock & roll...rock & roll is boogie.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
71Tele
()
Date: April 4, 2010 21:39
Quote
sweetcharmedlife
Boogie is rock & roll...rock & roll is boogie.
OK, in one sense, yeah...That's how it started. Then rock & roll became something called "Rock" (as championed by Pete Townshend, et. al) and went away from its boogie roots. So "Casino Boogie" you could say was real rock & roll.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: April 4, 2010 21:39
Quote
sweetcharmedlife
Boogie is rock & roll...rock & roll is boogie.
Boogie is not rock and roll and thus ...
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: April 4, 2010 21:55
I think we all agree that Jumpin' Jack flash is rock and roll. So you two actually say that Jumpin' Jack flash and Casino boogie are the same sort of music, because they're both rock and roll. Come on guys, gimmie a break. I would call CB rather a ballad than a rock and roll song. But I don't, it's a variant of blues, just like jazz is. It's rather jazz than rock and roll. But you two, Tele and scl, wouldn't surprise me by saying: "rock and roll is jazz ... jazz is rock and roll".
Let's say CB is a jazzy kind of bluesy rock and roll sort of ballad. Everybody happy.
Let's say CB is a jazzy kind of bluesy rock and roll sort of ballad. Everybody happy.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
71Tele
()
Date: April 4, 2010 21:58
Quote
kleermaker
I think we all agree that Jumpin' Jack flash is rock and roll. So you two actually say that Jumpin' Jack flash and Casino boogie are the same sort of music, because they're both rock and roll. Come on guys, gimmie a break. I would call CB rather a ballad than a rock and roll song. But I don't, it's a variant of blues, just like jazz is. It's rather jazz than rock and roll. But you two, Tele and scl, wouldn't surprise me by saying: "rock and roll is jazz ... jazz is rock and roll".
Let's say CB is a jazzy kind of bluesy rock and roll sort of ballad. Everybody happy.
I don't think CB is jazzy at all...I hear strains of Slim Harpo and John Lee Hooker. But the two-part harmonies add a unique element usually not found in blue or boogie. Certainly open to interpretation what is rock & roll and what isn't.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: April 4, 2010 22:23
"Not jazzy at all ..." Well, in painting boogie woogie and jazz seem to be related to each other one way or another, and as far as I know boogie has something to do with boogie woogie:
[www.gemeentemuseum.nl]
[www.gemeentemuseum.nl]
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
71Tele
()
Date: April 4, 2010 22:27
Quote
kleermaker
"Not jazzy at all ..." Well, in painting boogie woogie and jazz seem to be related to each other one way or another, and as far as I know boogie has something to do with boogie woogie:
[www.gemeentemuseum.nl]
Boogie and jazz are "related", yes, but "Casino Boogie" is not jazz, IMO. Don't mean to split hairs here. It's a somewhat arcane argument as to where blues ends and jazz begins. Some feel jazz is a blues form and some don't. Regardless, I have better things to do on a fine Sunday afternoon than argue about what is and isn't jazz. Casino Boogie is a great swampy, bluesy track full of snaking guitars, mysterious lyrics and achingly lovely harmony singing, backed up by a juke joint groove; and that's good enough for me!
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2010-04-04 22:59 by 71Tele.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: April 5, 2010 00:01
Quote
71Tele
Boogie and jazz are "related", yes, but "Casino Boogie" is not jazz, IMO.
Agreed, I didn't say that and had no intention to start an argument about that, just a sidestep to the noble art of painting.
Regardless, I have better things to do on a fine Sunday afternoon than argue about what is and isn't jazz. Casino Boogie is a great swampy, bluesy track full of snaking guitars, mysterious lyrics and achingly lovely harmony singing, backed up by a juke joint groove; and that's good enough for me!
But you seem still pissed off and have better things to do. Well, go ahead and enjoy. Here it's evening, so we al wear white on our bikes. Holland, you know.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
71Tele
()
Date: April 5, 2010 00:10
Not pissed off at all...I don't have a strong opinion on how to categorize music. I would rather listen to Casino Boogie - or better yet play it on one of my vintage guitars I have right in front of me, tuned to open G, than argue about it... I love Holland, by the way. Always enjoy myself when I am there.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: April 5, 2010 00:30
Quote
71Tele
Not pissed off at all...I don't have a strong opinion on how to categorize music. I would rather listen to Casino Boogie - or better yet play it on one of my vintage guitars I have right in front of me, tuned to open G, than argue about it... I love Holland, by the way. Always enjoy myself when I am there.
I thought still pissed off because of my "sarcastic" remarks about the lyrics, remember? Are your really regularly here in Holland? For business or pleasure, if I may ask? Well, next time pay a visit to my humble house (we promise each other not to discuss the differences between jazz, rock and blues, but to praise Taylor all the time). Btw: I would never go to the US. I can't imagine why my wife would like to visit NY. Seen more than enough of it on tv.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
71Tele
()
Date: April 5, 2010 00:44
Quote
kleermakerQuote
71Tele
Not pissed off at all...I don't have a strong opinion on how to categorize music. I would rather listen to Casino Boogie - or better yet play it on one of my vintage guitars I have right in front of me, tuned to open G, than argue about it... I love Holland, by the way. Always enjoy myself when I am there.
I thought still pissed off because of my "sarcastic" remarks about the lyrics, remember? Are your really regularly here in Holland? For business or pleasure, if I may ask? Well, next time pay a visit to my humble house (we promise each other not to discuss the differences between jazz, rock and blues, but to praise Taylor all the time). Btw: I would never go to the US. I can't imagine why my wife would like to visit NY. Seen more than enough of it on tv.
Now I AM pissed off at your diss of my city of birth - New York. Not really, but you should actually visit before making a judgment. You really are missing something...I have not been to Holland in a few years. Was last there to switch planes last year, so that doesn't really count. I was there the time before to see Tom Waits and had an amazing time. I am a big fan of your "brown bars" and jinevoort (spelling?). Thank you for the invitation and we can argue all night about differences between rock, blues and jazz over the beverage of your choice. Those are the kinds of arguments I enjoy. There is a direct flight on KLM/Northwest between Seattle, where I live, and Amsterdam.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-04-05 18:53 by 71Tele.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
()
Date: April 5, 2010 13:08
"close up doggies" haha...
))
Pietro wins.
Holland, you know...
))Pietro wins.
Holland, you know...
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: April 19, 2010 10:08
Just had a chance ta see the Exile doco.....
We slowed down the part where Mick is talking about Casino Boogie
over a reenactment scene showing some guys hands placing torn pieces of
paper with the scibbled Casino Boogie lyrics onto a table..... Burrows style..
Here's photo of scene......
ROCKMAN
We slowed down the part where Mick is talking about Casino Boogie
over a reenactment scene showing some guys hands placing torn pieces of
paper with the scibbled Casino Boogie lyrics onto a table..... Burrows style..
Here's photo of scene......
ROCKMAN
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
klrkcr
()
Date: April 19, 2010 10:17
Thanks Rockman- what did you think of the doco?
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: April 19, 2010 10:20
Yeah very good .... has a real EXILE grainy look to it ....
Footage I'd never seen before ..... comments by a lotta folks..Stones
Anita...Bob Keyes etc.... even a lil by Jimmy Miller
ROCKMAN
Footage I'd never seen before ..... comments by a lotta folks..Stones
Anita...Bob Keyes etc.... even a lil by Jimmy Miller
ROCKMAN
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
klrkcr
()
Date: April 19, 2010 10:32
Thanks Rockman, I look forward to getting and watching it.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
Anonymous User
()
Date: April 19, 2010 12:46
Quote
71TeleQuote
kleermakerQuote
71Tele
Not pissed off at all...I don't have a strong opinion on how to categorize music. I would rather listen to Casino Boogie - or better yet play it on one of my vintage guitars I have right in front of me, tuned to open G, than argue about it... I love Holland, by the way. Always enjoy myself when I am there.
I thought still pissed off because of my "sarcastic" remarks about the lyrics, remember? Are your really regularly here in Holland? For business or pleasure, if I may ask? Well, next time pay a visit to my humble house (we promise each other not to discuss the differences between jazz, rock and blues, but to praise Taylor all the time). Btw: I would never go to the US. I can't imagine why my wife would like to visit NY. Seen more than enough of it on tv.
Now I AM pissed off at your diss of my city of birth - New York. Not really, but you should actually visit before making a judgment. You really are missing something...I have not been to Holland in a few years. Was last there to switch planes last year, so that doesn't really count. I was there the time before to see Tom Waits and had an amazing time. I am a big fan of your "brown bars" and jinevoort (spelling?). Thank you for the invitation and we can argue all night about differences between rock, blues and jazz over the beverage of your choice. Those are the kinds of arguments I enjoy. There is a direct flight on KLM/Northwest between Seattle, where I live, and Amsterdam.
71Tele: New York is amazing indeed.Ive been there ,2 month before 9-11.
Very surrealistic,especially Manhattan.Very sunny days,but still a lot of shadow.
Great jazz club circuit,and the Marshall chess-club,where Bobby Fischer started his stunning chess career.It's gone I red somewhere...I stayed at the Chelsea Hotel, which has lost a part of it's charm due to a new owner.Many famous people lived there..
And MS Garden,I was 32 late I realized
If you get the chance to visit Amsterdam ,do it, you cannot compare it to NYC,but it's worth a visit.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
Anonymous User
()
Date: April 19, 2010 13:22
Quote
Rockman
Just had a chance ta see the Exile doco.....
We slowed down the part where Mick is talking about Casino Boogie
over a reenactment scene showing some guys hands placing torn pieces of
paper with the scibbled Casino Boogie lyrics onto a table..... Burrows style..
Here's photo of scene......
Evidence.
Re: Casino Boogie - what on earth are the lyrics about?
Posted by:
kissinc***incannes
()
Date: April 24, 2010 08:19
Quote
AmsterdamnedQuote
Rockman
Just had a chance ta see the Exile doco.....
We slowed down the part where Mick is talking about Casino Boogie
over a reenactment scene showing some guys hands placing torn pieces of
paper with the scibbled Casino Boogie lyrics onto a table..... Burrows style..
Here's photo of scene......
Evidence.
i'd say verdict reached and case closed! the judge and jury just walked out, hand in hand of course.
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