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ChrisM
Sorry about the 'n' omission in your name. What you say is certainly plausible but then why didn't Mick use the SG, which he had used extensively since acquiring it, during the '72 tour and up until the time he may have given it away?

His shoulder healed? Gibson asked him to?

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ChrisM
The 58 you mention was stolen while he was with Mayall and which prompted him to buy the Bigsby Burst in the fall of '67 as you already know.

I thought the story of the pre-Richards burst is:

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Gardiner Houlgate to Sell £100,000 Gibson Guitar
HISTORY OF THE 1959 GIBSON LES PAUL STANDARD GUITAR
The vendor John Scates was already an experienced, road hardened veteran of several 60's bands when, in 1968, while performing with an in vogue blues band called Pegasus, he saw an advert in the Melody Maker for a Gibson Les Paul Standard. At the time this desirable yet discontinued model was becoming ever more difficult to get hold of. More in hope than anticipation, John called the number advertised and was surprised to find he was speaking to Mick Taylor, who had only recently taken over as guitarist with The Blues Breakers, replacing Peter Green and later to replace Brian Jones in The Rolling Stones. An appointment was made and John went to Mick's West London flat where he handed over £200 and left with the Les Paul. Although a receipt was made out this has subsequently been misplaced.
When John Scates viewed the guitar it was apparent that a Bigsby unit was taken off and replaced with a non-standard stop tail piece. This was later changed by John to a standard fitting, but the Mick Taylor tail piece is offered with the guitar. Otherwise the guitar was and still is original in all respects.
The rather battered case is a non-standard case but is the one that came with the guitar and has suffered countless gigs.
Pegasus, although not commercially successful, were a tight and musical blues outfit and they soon became the unofficial resident support band at the Marquee where John, wielding his beloved standard, supported bands such as Free; Paul Kossoff played John's standard and loved it so much he offered to trade for a black three pick-up Les Paul, the offer was declined. ...
The auction will take place at The Westbury Hotel in Mayfair, London, on Monday 5 October 2009. For further information contact Jamie South (Director) or Luke H

So Taylor had three bursts in the 60s: the pre-Richards one stolen in '67, the Richards one, and this last one sold in '68?

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klrkcr
What about Keiths Black Beauty? When was the last time it photographed in use?

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i have no idea where ( or if) i heard / read that
has it been seen since the '70 tour?

Yes indeed it has. The Bigsby Burst surfaced in 2004 or so and was out up for auction but did not sell. It has changed hands privately a few times since and last I heard it now resides in Northern England. Check it out: Bigsby Burst

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The Greek
ChrisM, do you think it's true that keef started the gibson les paul burst popularity? being the first major rock star to favor the sunburst les paul ? never heard that one before ?

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The Greek
ChrisM, do you think it's true that keef started the gibson les paul burst popularity? being the first major rock star to favor the sunburst les paul ? never heard that one before ?

Morning Greek. Keith was to the best of knowledge the first British rock star to play and use a Sunburst Les Paul but I don't think it was Keith who really started the craze for them. Rather, that distinction goes to Eric Clapton for it was he who first demonstrated the guitar's sonic and tonal capabilities on Mayall's Bluesbreakers album. Mike Bloomfield also deserves credit for starting the Sunburst boom with his Les Paul playing with the Electric Flag. Many others followed suit after that...

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ChrisM
You mentioned your very impressive collection before as I recall. All I can say is wow! Do you post on the Les Paul Forum per chance? A few of us here, myself, Mathijs and His Majesty for example, do. Join the club if you haven't already! Les Paul Forum

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Gardiner Houlgate to Sell £100,000 Gibson Guitar
HISTORY OF THE 1959 GIBSON LES PAUL STANDARD GUITAR
The vendor John Scates was already an experienced, road hardened veteran of several 60's bands when, in 1968, while performing with an in vogue blues band called Pegasus, he saw an advert in the Melody Maker for a Gibson Les Paul Standard. At the time this desirable yet discontinued model was becoming ever more difficult to get hold of. More in hope than anticipation, John called the number advertised and was surprised to find he was speaking to Mick Taylor, who had only recently taken over as guitarist with The Blues Breakers, replacing Peter Green and later to replace Brian Jones in The Rolling Stones. An appointment was made and John went to Mick's West London flat where he handed over £200 and left with the Les Paul. Although a receipt was made out this has subsequently been misplaced.
When John Scates viewed the guitar it was apparent that a Bigsby unit was taken off and replaced with a non-standard stop tail piece. This was later changed by John to a standard fitting, but the Mick Taylor tail piece is offered with the guitar. Otherwise the guitar was and still is original in all respects.
The rather battered case is a non-standard case but is the one that came with the guitar and has suffered countless gigs.
Pegasus, although not commercially successful, were a tight and musical blues outfit and they soon became the unofficial resident support band at the Marquee where John, wielding his beloved standard, supported bands such as Free; Paul Kossoff played John's standard and loved it so much he offered to trade for a black three pick-up Les Paul, the offer was declined. ...
The auction will take place at The Westbury Hotel in Mayfair, London, on Monday 5 October 2009. For further information contact Jamie South (Director) or Luke H

This is the story they tried to sell off to make the guitar legitimate. Various people then pointed out that after all, this was a stolen guitar that was reported as such, and the auction never took place.

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RollingStonesRob
Yes! That Es-355 was also shown in pictures in 1972 and possibly used on the tours in 1972 and 1973.

Care to share any pics of this?

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Mathijs
I know of the the second Bigsby LP being stolen while on a train -that guitar was not a Gibson though. I would advice Taylor not to travel with guitar by train.

Mathijs

When you are a touring musician you have to go places. And when you arrive back at Heathrow or finish recording in a London studio it's not always at a civilised hour but you still need to get home somehow.

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Loudei
Keith has said during the current media tour on Exile release, that yes the guitars were stolen and that he recovered some of them back. The picture above of the 72' tour guitars shows the 59' custom and the Armstrong... probably the flying V was never recovered....Malcolm and Micawber are also up there, don't know if they were present when the thieves robbed the guitars. I was going to mention the other day that I didn't see that many teles and strats on Dominic's book and other photo documents at Keith's house in France... except for the living room photo with parsons and their ladies. Was Exile a more Gibson album?