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Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: December 29, 2009 18:39

any other songs end with the drums aside from Respectable"

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: December 29, 2009 18:41

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T&A
any other songs end with the drums aside from Respectable"

Brown Sugar? Plenty more -- I'm guessing -- must end with a little drum flourish.

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: December 29, 2009 18:44

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schillid
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T&A
any other songs end with the drums aside from Respectable"

Brown Sugar? Plenty more -- I'm guessing -- must end with a little drum flourish.

i thought of BS - but technically it ends with keith's little laughter thingy....

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: Single Malt ()
Date: December 29, 2009 18:45

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T&A
any other songs end with the drums aside from Respectable"

Hot Stuff

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: franzk ()
Date: December 29, 2009 21:30

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T&A
any other songs end with the drums aside from Respectable"

How Can I Stop - of course!

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: December 29, 2009 21:47

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franzk
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T&A
any other songs end with the drums aside from Respectable"

How Can I Stop - of course!

i kinda "brushed" that one aside....

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: tomk ()
Date: December 29, 2009 21:58

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Gazza
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tomk
George Martin may have something to do with the intros
to those Beatles songs. Can't Buy Me Love is a good example.
He changed it to where it started on the chorus rather than the verse.
It's a great songwriting idea, actually; you need a good intro.
The song Help! wouldn't have worked if it started with the verse.
With that chorus, it pulls you in,

Not only does 'Help!' start with the vocal, but it's b-side ("I'm Down") does as well.

Indeed. And now that I think about it, McCartney does it a lot
(starting with the vocals): Hey Jude, Long and Winding Road, I Will,
Maxwell's Silver Hammer, For No One, Eleanor Rigby, Too Many People,
Heart Of The Country, Uncle Albert, Tug Of War, No More Lonely Nights, etc...

Re: Songs without musical intros
Date: December 29, 2009 23:55

That is because Paul has this incredible gift for the opening melody and line.

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: Barn Owl ()
Date: December 30, 2009 00:15

Neighbours

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: mickscarey ()
Date: December 30, 2009 00:18

smu

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: cc ()
Date: December 30, 2009 00:21

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Barn Owl
Neighbours

but I would call the beginning of that cut an intro--it's two bars of intro ("Neighbours! neighbours! neighbours! neighbors!"), then into the verse ("Neigh-borrrrrs! / have I got neighbours...".

I don't think "without intro" can mean simply "without vocals." The key point is whether the verse or, I suppose, the chorus starts straightaway as it does later in the song as well. So to me, "Mother's Little Helper" has an intro (somewhat like "Neighbours"'s, in fact).

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: Barn Owl ()
Date: December 30, 2009 00:22

You Can Make It If You Try

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: still ill ()
Date: December 30, 2009 00:30

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tomk
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Gazza
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tomk
George Martin may have something to do with the intros
to those Beatles songs. Can't Buy Me Love is a good example.
He changed it to where it started on the chorus rather than the verse.
It's a great songwriting idea, actually; you need a good intro.
The song Help! wouldn't have worked if it started with the verse.
With that chorus, it pulls you in,

Not only does 'Help!' start with the vocal, but it's b-side ("I'm Down") does as well.

Indeed. And now that I think about it, McCartney does it a lot
(starting with the vocals): Hey Jude, Long and Winding Road, I Will,
Maxwell's Silver Hammer, For No One, Eleanor Rigby, Too Many People,
Heart Of The Country, Uncle Albert, Tug Of War, No More Lonely Nights, etc...

....We Can Work It Out,Paperback Writer,Hello Goodbye,Pipes of Peace,My Brave Face,Live and Let Die,Here Today,Only Love Remains,Bluebird,Spies Like Us,Another Day,Long Haired Lady,Tug Of War ...

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: cc ()
Date: December 30, 2009 00:33

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Barn Owl
You Can Make It If You Try

this is closer, but the fact that the rest of the band lays out for the first line to me constitutes an arranged intro. The song is beginning directly with the verse, but with a special twist, appropriate to introducing the song.

The closest to me that have been mentioned here are "All Sold Out" and "Tie You Up," but even these have brief drum fills rather than no intro.

It seems to me that it's much more common to have some kind of opening arrangement than not. I think the Beatles, or perhaps just paul, are the exception rather than the Stones here. Though comparing simply the two groups seems specious to me.

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: Barn Owl ()
Date: December 30, 2009 00:36

...got to admit, I'm lost on this one!

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: December 30, 2009 09:13

Non-Stones-
I Can't Quit You
What Is and What Should Bever Be
Inside Looking Out (GFR-if you don't count the high hat countoff)
Fat Bottom Girls (voices)
I could go on, just a few I thought of

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: tomk ()
Date: December 30, 2009 09:26

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still ill
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tomk
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Gazza
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tomk
George Martin may have something to do with the intros
to those Beatles songs. Can't Buy Me Love is a good example.
He changed it to where it started on the chorus rather than the verse.
It's a great songwriting idea, actually; you need a good intro.
The song Help! wouldn't have worked if it started with the verse.
With that chorus, it pulls you in,

Not only does 'Help!' start with the vocal, but it's b-side ("I'm Down") does as well.

Indeed. And now that I think about it, McCartney does it a lot
(starting with the vocals): Hey Jude, Long and Winding Road, I Will,
Maxwell's Silver Hammer, For No One, Eleanor Rigby, Too Many People,
Heart Of The Country, Uncle Albert, Tug Of War, No More Lonely Nights, etc...

....We Can Work It Out,Paperback Writer,Hello Goodbye,Pipes of Peace,My Brave Face,Live and Let Die,Here Today,Only Love Remains,Bluebird,Spies Like Us,Another Day,Long Haired Lady,Tug Of War ...

Paul definitely knows what he's doing.
Look at all those terrific songs that start that way.
Songwriting 101 perhaps.

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: December 30, 2009 11:03

>> I don't think "without intro" can mean simply "without vocals." <<

but cc honey, what the original poster is asking about (i think?!) are songs that start with the vocals,
without any instrumental prelude. he/she isn't asking about songs that start with the chorus.
you can start your own question, of course, but it is confusing to discuss both at once.
have some rice krispies - it's too early for popcorn :E

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: December 30, 2009 15:34

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BluzDude
Non-Stones-
I Can't Quit You
What Is and What Should Bever Be
Inside Looking Out (GFR-if you don't count the high hat countoff)
Fat Bottom Girls (voices)
I could go on, just a few I thought of

I would say a few candidates for most well known songs in this category would be three of Elvis' most well known hits, all of them from 1956 - Heartbreak Hotel, Blue Suede Shoes and Hound Dog.

Oddly, it wasnt a trait that he used quite as regularly after that.

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: UnionHall ()
Date: December 31, 2009 00:02

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with sssoul


but cc honey, what the original poster is asking about (i think?!) are songs that start with the vocals,
without any instrumental prelude.

You are correct, sssoul. My original intent was to see how many Stones songs began by jumping right into the vocals, with no instrumental intro. I have kind of been fascinated with how many Lennon/McCartney songs began this way, and because of the postings by others, I have learned that McCartney is quite adept at writing this way. No matter what everyone has posted, I have learned a few new things and found all the thoughts to be interesting. Thanks everyone!

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: tomk ()
Date: December 31, 2009 00:22

The Lennon and McCartney list just keeps growing now that I think of them:
Julia, Yer Blues, YOur Mother Should Know, Starting Over,
Here There And Everywhere, No Reply, I'm a Loser, You're Gonna Lose That Girl,
Another Girl, Nowhere Man, Wait, Penny Lane, Honey Pie, Power To the People,
Mother, Gimme Some Truth...

And Elvis had a lot: Heartbreak Hotel, Blue Moon of Kentucky, Good Rockin Tonite, Hound Dog, Blue Suede Shoes (Perkins, too), plus others.

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: Barn Owl ()
Date: December 31, 2009 00:36

No More Lonely Nights is another.

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: cc ()
Date: December 31, 2009 07:01

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with sssoul
but cc honey, what the original poster is asking about (i think?!) are songs that start with the vocals,
without any instrumental prelude. he/she isn't asking about songs that start with the chorus.
you can start your own question, of course, but it is confusing to discuss both at once.
have some rice krispies - it's too early for popcorn :E

fair enough! ...though I actually suspected the original post for a troll, trying to toss a stealthy "Beatles vs. Stones" bomb. But now the Beatles' alleged "inability" to write an intro (whatever that is) has by consensus turned into a strength--snap, crackle, pop!

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: tomk ()
Date: December 31, 2009 08:04

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Gazza
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BluzDude
Non-Stones-
I Can't Quit You
What Is and What Should Bever Be
Inside Looking Out (GFR-if you don't count the high hat countoff)
Fat Bottom Girls (voices)
I could go on, just a few I thought of

I would say a few candidates for most well known songs in this category would be three of Elvis' most well known hits, all of them from 1956 - Heartbreak Hotel, Blue Suede Shoes and Hound Dog.

Oddly, it wasnt a trait that he used quite as regularly after that.


Sorry, Gazza, didn't see your earlier post regarding Elvis.
I think he has more than we've mentioned.
Crying In The Chapel comes to mind. I'm sure there's more.

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: December 31, 2009 08:55

To recap the various topics being discussed here:

* Songs that don't start with instruments... instead they start right in with singing.
* Songs that don't start with instruments, instead they start with some kind of sound effects (my own confusing contribution, thank you)
* Songs that start with a chorus instead of a verse
* Songs that end with drums
* ???

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: tomremi ()
Date: December 31, 2009 09:13

Weezer - buddy holly

-TomR

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: slew ()
Date: December 31, 2009 17:25

I'm A King Bee

Roadrunner

I'm having trouble thinking of anymore that have not been mentioned.

Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: mitchflorida ()
Date: January 4, 2010 04:39




Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: WMiller ()
Date: March 7, 2010 01:29

Listening to this album today reminded me of this thread.

A non-stones entry to the mix...




Re: Songs without musical intros
Posted by: swiss ()
Date: March 7, 2010 04:58







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