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The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: BrianJones1969 ()
Date: December 8, 2009 03:50

Does anyone here recall the proposed 1972 live album the Rolling Stones had planned to release, with Stevie Wonder as a guest, but couldn't do so because of their ex-management owning the rights to a few songs in the track listing?

Even after Allen Klein had supposedly gave them the green light, the LP was shelved anyway.

What else is there to know about this 1972 live album?

~Ben

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: December 8, 2009 04:00

<< What else is there to know about this 1972 live album? >>

Lots!

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: ghostryder13 ()
Date: December 8, 2009 07:06

Klein probably wanted a bigger cut than the stones were willing to give plus even if he gave his ok , the stones still had to deal with decca as well

btw my favorite bootleg of that tour is "you can't do that baby" i think it has the best sound



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-12-08 10:30 by ghostryder13.

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: S.T.P ()
Date: December 8, 2009 08:21

Here's some from an old tread,
[www.iorr.org]

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: kovach ()
Date: December 8, 2009 15:36

Quote
ghostryder13
btw my favorite bootleg of that tour is "you can't do that baby" i think it has the best sound

I agree.

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Date: December 8, 2009 16:27

Quote
ghostryder13
Klein probably wanted a bigger cut than the stones were willing to give plus even if he gave his ok , the stones still had to deal with decca as well

btw my favorite bootleg of that tour is "you can't do that baby" i think it has the best sound

That's the same as the TMOQ release "Ladies And Gentlemen", right?

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: studiorambo ()
Date: December 8, 2009 22:52

If they put this out now, that cover art image of the aged light pole with all the tattered and torn posters and flyers would be even more appropriate. Hopefully as part of Deluxe Exile On Main St.

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: django ()
Date: December 8, 2009 23:42

Quote
studiorambo
If they put this out now, that cover art image of the aged light pole with all the tattered and torn posters and flyers would be even more appropriate. Hopefully as part of Deluxe Exile On Main St.

That would indeed be perfect. The best cover of an official live album:




Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: DrPete ()
Date: December 9, 2009 02:13

Any chance at all that the Exile re release will be 3 cds (Exile, studio outtakes, Unreleased LIVE cd) and dvd of L&G?? This would be VERY appreciated

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: BrianJones1969 ()
Date: December 9, 2009 03:12

Only if Jody Klein, Allen's son, says so...

It may be probable now, as the Rolling Stones had just moved distribution of their post-1970 output from EMI to Universal Music Group.

~Ben

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: ghostryder13 ()
Date: December 9, 2009 03:16

Quote
BrianJones1969
Only if Jody Klein, Allen's son, says so...

It may be probable now, as the Rolling Stones had just moved distribution of their post-1970 output from EMI to Universal Music Group.

~Ben
i don't think they'd need it now but if so it seems jody is easier for the stones to work with than allen

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: mitch ()
Date: December 9, 2009 10:49

Some vocals/guitar overdub have been done for the avorted live album.
You can find those reworked tracks on "Very Ancient, Thank You Kindly"

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: December 9, 2009 16:14

All 11 tracks that were worked on specifically for this project(not saying thats all they were gonna do but all we have avail?) are on Rattlesnakes STP box set. Of note "Happy" with Keiths dubbed vocals and "Tumbling Dice" with Keiths overdubbed b/u vocals are there( plus the mixing effort).

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: mitch ()
Date: December 9, 2009 17:13

Quote
scottkeef
All 11 tracks that were worked on specifically for this project(not saying thats all they were gonna do but all we have avail?) are on Rattlesnakes STP box set. Of note "Happy" with Keiths dubbed vocals and "Tumbling Dice" with Keiths overdubbed b/u vocals are there( plus the mixing effort).

The worked tracks are less than 11.

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: December 9, 2009 17:19

The Stones being on UMG has nothing to do with it.

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: JJHMick ()
Date: December 9, 2009 17:20

This is what was planned according to Nico Zentgraf:

720811B 11th August: THE ROLLING STONES. US radio (WMMS)/(Radio Cleveland).
Broadcast of the unreleased 1972 tour live-album.
- You Can't Always Get What You Want (MJ/KR) - Houston 25.6.72, 1st show
- Sweet Virginia (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 21.7.72, 1st show
- Bitch (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- All Down The Line (MJ/KR) -Houston 25.6.72, 1st show
- Happy (MJ/KR) -Fort Worth 24.6.72, 1st show
- Tumbling Dice (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- Rip This Joint (MJ/KR)-Fort Worth 24.6.72, 1st show
- Gimme Shelter (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- Brown Sugar (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- Uptight/Satisfaction (Sylvia Moy/Henry Cosby/Stevie Wonder)(MJ/KR) -unidentified source, July 1972
Note: Some dates and places are unsure.

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: December 9, 2009 17:46

So that actually IS 11 tracks altogether(uptight/satisfaction two songs). Nah, I really dont know exactly how it woulda turned out but I received a tape of the mixed and dubbed songs from Bob Newbury at least a couple of yrs before it wound up on cd.

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: mitch ()
Date: December 9, 2009 17:58

The overdubs have been made after this broadcast.
Btw, Bye Bye Johnny has been reworked and was not on the broadcast...
So, this has nothing to do with should have been the Live album.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-12-09 18:02 by mitch.

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: midnrambler ()
Date: December 9, 2009 18:20

Quote
JJHMick
This is what was planned according to Nico Zentgraf:

720811B 11th August: THE ROLLING STONES. US radio (WMMS)/(Radio Cleveland).
Broadcast of the unreleased 1972 tour live-album.
- You Can't Always Get What You Want (MJ/KR) - Houston 25.6.72, 1st show
- Sweet Virginia (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 21.7.72, 1st show
- Bitch (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- All Down The Line (MJ/KR) -Houston 25.6.72, 1st show
- Happy (MJ/KR) -Fort Worth 24.6.72, 1st show
- Tumbling Dice (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- Rip This Joint (MJ/KR)-Fort Worth 24.6.72, 1st show
- Gimme Shelter (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- Brown Sugar (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- Uptight/Satisfaction (Sylvia Moy/Henry Cosby/Stevie Wonder)(MJ/KR) -unidentified source, July 1972
Note: Some dates and places are unsure.

This is exactly on VGP's "Keep Your Motor Runnin'" (VGP-243). This CD is what comes closest to the Unreleased Live Album.

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: S.T.P ()
Date: December 9, 2009 18:29

Quote
midnrambler
Quote
JJHMick
This is what was planned according to Nico Zentgraf:

720811B 11th August: THE ROLLING STONES. US radio (WMMS)/(Radio Cleveland).
Broadcast of the unreleased 1972 tour live-album.
- You Can't Always Get What You Want (MJ/KR) - Houston 25.6.72, 1st show
- Sweet Virginia (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 21.7.72, 1st show
- Bitch (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- All Down The Line (MJ/KR) -Houston 25.6.72, 1st show
- Happy (MJ/KR) -Fort Worth 24.6.72, 1st show
- Tumbling Dice (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- Rip This Joint (MJ/KR)-Fort Worth 24.6.72, 1st show
- Gimme Shelter (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- Brown Sugar (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- Uptight/Satisfaction (Sylvia Moy/Henry Cosby/Stevie Wonder)(MJ/KR) -unidentified source, July 1972
Note: Some dates and places are unsure.

This is exactly on VGP's "Keep Your Motor Runnin'" (VGP-243). This CD is what comes closest to the Unreleased Live Album.

-Closest is the right word. Probably no one here knows what songs are on it, or where they are taken from.

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: December 9, 2009 18:43

The tape I received(before anyone released it on boot) was not from the Cleveland b'cast.

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: cc ()
Date: December 9, 2009 18:50

that's kind of a strange playlist. Wouldn't the album have begun with "Brown Sugar"?

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: mitch ()
Date: December 9, 2009 18:54

Quote
midnrambler
This is exactly on VGP's "Keep Your Motor Runnin'" (VGP-243).

Not at all.
The VGP compile the Scorpio stereo tracks (including the overdubed Bye Bye Johnny) and Happy from L&G.

But I agree with you that Keep Your Motor is probably what comes the closest to the Lost Live Album.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-12-09 18:55 by mitch.

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: HEILOOBAAS ()
Date: December 9, 2009 19:37

Quote
cc
that's kind of a strange playlist. Wouldn't the album have begun with "Brown Sugar"?

The tape I rec'd has the following tracks:

Brown Sugar
B*tch
Gimme Shelter
Happy
Sweet Virginia
YCA?
All Down The Line
RTJ
Uptight/Satisfaction

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: March 14, 2016 12:58

Why does my version of this start with Rocks Off?

JumpingKentFlash

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: HEILOOBAAS ()
Date: March 29, 2016 04:02

Where can I find the Uptight + Satisfaction encore from this? I had it on cassette and then purged all my cassettes during the first phases of chemotherapy (don't ask)...

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Date: March 29, 2016 08:50

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JumpingKentFlash
Why does my version of this start with Rocks Off?

Not All Down The Line?

Re: The Stones' Unreleased 1972 Live Album
Posted by: S.T.P ()
Date: September 12, 2021 14:13

I think it's about time they get this album out. Next year it's 50(!) years since the tour.



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