today is alot different to the 60's and earlier !
These days a mild domestic argument can lead to trouble. We are all now educated that men are not allowed to hit women...no matter the situation.
Guys who think "Keith/Brian/Mick did it back in the 60's" are still sticking their heads in the sand like everyone did back then.

wake up to yourselves - this is a pathetic act by a pathetic man.

I'm disgusted.

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We all know they have to pass their physicals for the sponsors in order to get the insurance in place for the new tour.....not so sure at this point that 30 days of rehab would get Ronnie to pass that test if he is such the drinker...

Yes ,that's what I was thinking about .
This could be very annoying for a next tour ,could it ?



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

A question for my British friends:

In England if one is charged with Domestic Violence is a restraining order automatically issued? Was Ronnie allowed to return to shared condo?

Tks

L.O.

To all of you crying after Mick Taylor:

He is a fantastic guitar player and he is, doubtless, very important to the history of the world’s greatest rock’n roll band.
BUT he has not played with the Stones for 35 years, except for one performance in Kansas City in 1981 (which he also said was a disappointing experience).
Lots have changed since the golden Mick Taylor era 1969 – 1974. Touring is not just about those two hours on stage – MT should know that better than most people. Remember, the 1972/73 tours nearly destroyed the man. The modern edition of The Stones has toured more than ever before. They have to live with each other day after day for months. Ronnie Wood has been and toured with The Rolling Stones since 1975. When Eric Clapton jealousy said to Ronnie “I could have your job”, Ronnie just replied; “But Eric, you have got to be able to live with these people.” Sure there are better guitarists out there, but Keith Richards don’t give a damn! Ronnie is his best friend and makes the touring life more easy and fun. How would it be like touring with Mick Taylor now, 35 years after his resignation? How will Keith and MT get along both on stage and behind the scenes? Seriously, I’m not sure Mick Taylor will fit into the modern Stones way of life, touring and doing business. And by the way, unfortunately, Mick Taylor also has his drinking problems. Hiring MT, will, perhaps, not be a good solution for any part.

Nicely summed up, The Worst!
Agree on everything except this: Ronnie's not Keith's best friend. Blondie is.
And Keith's asked Ronnie to get his act together - or else he'll replace him.
If Ronnie doesn't pass his medical for insuance purposes (tour has to be insured!), he's out. Same thing if his assault conviction results in that he's unable to get a working visa in crucial territories for the Stones.
And Mick Taylor would not even make it to the first round of replacement discussions. You don't get rid of one problem, just to replace it with an even bigger one. I'm thinking Jeff - or Nils.



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I heard that when Keith Richards was in Mykonos like 10 years ago, he was fighting with his wife and I think he beat her but I am not sure.Just roumors.

Then why bother mentioning it at all?

There's one thing Keith loathes intensely. Men who beat up women. He would never do hat, and Patricia would never have tolerated such behaviour. They're in another league than Ronnie and the russian call girl. This might sound insensitive, and perhaps it is. I'm just fed up with Ronnies stupid behaviour.

I still keep on thinking that there is no connection between ron wood story and
mick taylor back with the stones; i don't understand why a lot of people has this feeling. i'd like it too, but i think that mick and keith don't want it and, more important, mick taylor himself doesn't want to spend 2-3 years on tour

People tend to forget Mick Taylor is more than 35 years older than he was in the Stones' prime. Wouldn't you think he degenerated just as much as Keith and Ron or do you expect him to have supernatural powers?

Crying for his return is like crying for Maradonna's come-back as a player for the Argentina national soccer team.

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I heard that when Keith Richards was in Mykonos like 10 years ago, he was fighting with his wife and I think he beat her but I am not sure.Just roumors.

Then why bother mentioning it at all?

There's one thing Keith loathes intensely. Men who beat up women. He would never do hat, and Patricia would never have tolerated such behaviour. They're in another league than Ronnie and the russian call girl. This might sound insensitive, and perhaps it is. I'm just fed up with Ronnies stupid behaviour.

That would be excepting the times he and anita fought like cat and dog then, or uschi for that matter, or Lil? All ancient history I know, but still.

OLDKR

Once again a couple of lines on a news paper are enough to transform this board in the Holy Office of the Inquisition ...

Besides, let's just be serious for a moment.

Did any of you ever meet Ronnie Wood in person? I mean, recently? Woudl you bet a penny on him beating Ms. Ivanova?

C

Again--funny/sad how quick many on this board are to put down and judge a person without all the facts...

Love/hate is part of passion and Ronnie not saying he was correct MAY have acted on his passions....Sometimes in life we do things we can't take back and for that we are wrong.
But no one is perfect...
I truely believe Woodie LOVED this girl with all his heart...He left his wife and children, His past life to be with this child. As time past he saw the true person and not the person he wanted...
(I do think she was in it for the money and fame and not for Ronnnie.) Sad for Ronnie and his girlfriend.

I also believe if the stories are true that he just exploded...Happens...I even bet she may have started the fight and he couldn't control himself.. Again he would be wrong..---But also Its not right for a women or man to be...........Emotionally OR Physically Abusive..
But it happens..Sad but true that women and men can and do lose their tempers...

What needs to be done now is for Woodie and this girl to move on and get help.
Ronnie Wood is a Rolling Stone and we still should wait until we hear his side of the story not just press reports and some unknown people who say they heard something...

Even if some of the reports are true, Ronnie Wood is human, can and will, like the rest of us, continue to make mistakes..
Lets not judge others unless you have walked in their shoes!

Woodie, Mick, Keith, Taylor, Watts, Bill, etc. are musicians and not priests, judges or elected officials and sad they make mistakes too.

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Would be interesting to know whether the band have in their contracts (to people like Cohl, sponsors, UNIVERSAL, etc) a code of conduct - obviously it would differ very much from what you and i adhere to in our regular jobs... but my point is this:

Would his action (if proven true) force Cohl, sponsors, etc, to pull out of any deal if Ronnie is involved with the band?....

Would the Stones stick with Ronnie and go with a new promoter/sponsor who doesn't care whether members are beating up women, OR, would they ditch him as they're more interested in where the BIGGER BUCK £$£$ is at?

Good questions asked here!!!! Spot on!

Been Stoned since 1964 and still am!

From news reports he didnt so much beat her as drag her down the street. She's not pressing charges anyway.

OLDKR

Dear, this story does not sound well.Hopefully Ronnie gets his problems fixed.He seems to have serious problems though.

As the good book says.."let he who have no sin cast the first stone"

No pun was intended and we should all bear in mind we are all human and have our failings.

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As the good book says.."let he who have no sin cast the first stone"

No pun was intended and we should all bear in mind we are all human and have our failings.

While the 1967 Redlands bust trial was going on there was a very memorable poster on sale with a picture of Jagger and the slogan "Let he who is without sin jail the first Stone". Does anyone have it?

I mentioned it because someone here may knew something more.I also don't approve that kind of behavior but I can't imagine Rolling Stones without Ronnie.Let's see what will happen.

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As the good book says.."let he who have no sin cast the first stone"

No pun was intended and we should all bear in mind we are all human and have our failings.

Well said, WATER HOG.

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Where does it say he was drinking?

Dump her. The guy's never been violent in 60 years, and now she makes the scene and cops show up twice within a year. Let her write her book, she's trying to get his ass locked up. I had an ex that would scream at me for hours, and when I tried to leave, she called the cops and said I assaulted her. Never laid a hand on her - ever. She tries to drop the charges the day of court, but they wouldn't let her, and they found me not guilty. It happens sometimes when they're immature and they lose control of a situation. I ended up with the baby and her ass hit the pavement.
Who knows what happened, but the only thing that Ronnie Wood and any kind of violence have in common is Ekaterina. He should go to jail, though, just for being so damned dumb for not getting rid of her by now.

Brue, whether Mr Wood has been violent before or not is impossible to say with any certainty. You are looking at him merely from a fan's perspective and have not lived with him.
Blaming the girl, who just happens to be at the receiving end right now, for HIS appalling behaviour is not the way to solve this (merely a knee-jerk reaction which is understandable/predictable in some ways).
However, people that know Ronnie personally are aware he has multiple "issues". Sadly, it is not the first time he has displayed violence towards women. There have been serious incidents in past relationships (predating Ekat) as well, only difference is the newspapers didn't report on it back then.

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Again--funny/sad how quick many on this board are to put down and judge a person without all the facts...

Love/hate is part of passion and Ronnie not saying he was correct MAY have acted on his passions....Sometimes in life we do things we can't take back and for that we are wrong.
But no one is perfect...
I truely believe Woodie LOVED this girl with all his heart...He left his wife and children, His past life to be with this child. As time past he saw the true person and not the person he wanted...
(I do think she was in it for the money and fame and not for Ronnnie.) Sad for Ronnie and his girlfriend.

I also believe if the stories are true that he just exploded...Happens...I even bet she may have started the fight and he couldn't control himself.. Again he would be wrong..---But also Its not right for a women or man to be...........Emotionally OR Physically Abusive..
But it happens..Sad but true that women and men can and do lose their tempers...

What needs to be done now is for Woodie and this girl to move on and get help.
Ronnie Wood is a Rolling Stone and we still should wait until we hear his side of the story not just press reports and some unknown people who say they heard something...

Even if some of the reports are true, Ronnie Wood is human, can and will, like the rest of us, continue to make mistakes..
Lets not judge others unless you have walked in their shoes!

Woodie, Mick, Keith, Taylor, Watts, Bill, etc. are musicians and not priests, judges or elected officials and sad they make mistakes too.

Oh cuz priests, judges, and elected officials never make mistakes...

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People tend to forget Mick Taylor is more than 35 years older than he was in the Stones' prime. Wouldn't you think he degenerated just as much as Keith and Ron or do you expect him to have supernatural powers?

Crying for his return is like crying for Maradonna's come-back as a player for the Argentina national soccer team.

My God!! I was just talking about Maradona last night!! Except I couldn't for the life of me remember his name! LOL Thanks so much for this, Alef!!



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Again--funny/sad how quick many on this board are to put down and judge a person without all the facts...

Love/hate is part of passion and Ronnie not saying he was correct MAY have acted on his passions....Sometimes in life we do things we can't take back and for that we are wrong.
But no one is perfect...
I truely believe Woodie LOVED this girl with all his heart...He left his wife and children, His past life to be with this child. As time past he saw the true person and not the person he wanted...
(I do think she was in it for the money and fame and not for Ronnnie.) Sad for Ronnie and his girlfriend.

I also believe if the stories are true that he just exploded...Happens...I even bet she may have started the fight and he couldn't control himself.. Again he would be wrong..---But also Its not right for a women or man to be...........Emotionally OR Physically Abusive..
But it happens..Sad but true that women and men can and do lose their tempers...

What needs to be done now is for Woodie and this girl to move on and get help.
Ronnie Wood is a Rolling Stone and we still should wait until we hear his side of the story not just press reports and some unknown people who say they heard something...

Even if some of the reports are true, Ronnie Wood is human, can and will, like the rest of us, continue to make mistakes..
Lets not judge others unless you have walked in their shoes!

Woodie, Mick, Keith, Taylor, Watts, Bill, etc. are musicians and not priests, judges or elected officials and sad they make mistakes too.

I totally agree.

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Nicely summed up, The Worst!
Agree on everything except this: Ronnie's not Keith's best friend. Blondie is.
And Keith's asked Ronnie to get his act together - or else he'll replace him.
If Ronnie doesn't pass his medical for insuance purposes (tour has to be insured!), he's out. Same thing if his assault conviction results in that he's unable to get a working visa in crucial territories for the Stones.
And Mick Taylor would not even make it to the first round of replacement discussions. You don't get rid of one problem, just to replace it with an even bigger one. I'm thinking Jeff - or Nils.

Well, hehe, I admit I don't know all the details on Keith Richards' friend list.
And of course, being violent against another person is unacceptable and unheard of,unless you're protecing yourself our your family in self-defense.
I was not there and have no comment about the recent episode. If he is guilty, I trust the courtroom to settle the truth.

We all know Ronnie can be a fool. Perhaps the only way he can get his act together is a new tour with rules, schedules and frames. But a new tour will also end some day, so it will not solve his problems in the long run. The same old story. It's his life. But if he is an obstacle for the band's progress and touring plans, I guess some individuals in the Stones' camp would not hesitate to have him replaced.

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From news reports he didnt so much beat her as drag her down the street. She's not pressing charges anyway.

OLDKR

This is what I said would happen earlier. This is what 20 year olds do, when they lose control of a situation, they instigate something, then when it gets out of hand, they get scared and try to drop the charges, because it's not about the assault, it's about them wanting control. If she presses charges, she knows the whole rock star life is over and she's on the street again. You can't have a level relationship with someone that young, they're always gonna want control because they're immature, and don't see the big picture. If she's abusing him daily by trying to legislate his every move, she wants to keep it private so she can maintain control. Once it becomes public, she's lost the battle. Of course, dragging her around isn't the right thing to do. Getting a restraining order is.

As a fan of "THE ROLLING STONES", all I can hope for is that this is a major wake up call for all of them. Get your shit together and keep it together, because time waits for no one.

As a fan of "Ronnie Wood", all I can hope is that he wakes up, sobers up, and grows up. You are not aging gracefully, my friend.

Here's to better days...

'We had just gone to bed at about 10.45pm when we heard this man shouting and screaming at the top of his voice,' Mr Legge said.

'He was shouting, "You are a f***ing b****" and then "You are a f***ing w****" and it was really loud.

'I could hear a woman screaming for him to leave her alone and initially thought it was two people just having a row.

Read more: [www.dailymail.co.uk]

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Would the Stones stick with Ronnie and go with a new promoter/sponsor who doesn't care whether members are beating up women, OR, would they ditch him as they're more interested in where the BIGGER BUCK £$£$ is at?

Guess....!!

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As a fan of "THE ROLLING STONES", all I can hope for is that this is a major wake up call for all of them. Get your shit together and keep it together, because time waits for no one.

As a fan of "Ronnie Wood", all I can hope is that he wakes up, sobers up, and grows up. You are not aging gracefully, my friend.

Here's to better days...

Could`t agree more!

And the idea to replace anyone at all in the band is no good.

Good book? What is that?

I'm not making any judgments until the facts are out. Like my making any judgment at all means anything anyway.

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From news reports he didnt so much beat her as drag her down the street. She's not pressing charges anyway.

OLDKR

........revolting.