I've been reading all Altamont related lit for many a year, including the gold standard from messes Stanley Booth. Long ago I gave up on "the girl in the white crocheted dress" that of the weeping blond Ms Patricia Breddehopt as unavailable, no way, wont speak, move on to the next, and then bang! There she's is below....

The death of Meredith Hunter at Altamont
...provide security for the free concert at Altamont Raceway & Arena in California...the young black man who got killed at Altamont. That was all. In most accounts his...people scattered over the 83 acres of Altamont during the concert, but only one had...
David James Smith; David James
27 March 2005 The Sunday Times
timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article430230.ece

Was this her first and only interview??

Meredith Hunter was a thug who thought he was Big Man & his hubris killed him. End of.

who brings a gun to a concert anyway?? that's just stupid.

This was clearly a knife fight
You don't bring guns to those...

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@#$%&
who brings a gun to a concert anyway?? that's just stupid.

Keith Richards?

Hey, you clowns need to do a little research before you pop off.

The Angels didn't like the fact that a Black man was "with" a Blonde girl.

They picked a fight with him, multiple Angels jumped him and yes he did a stupid
act and pulled out his "unloaded" gun. He had never dealt with Hells Angels
before and it cost him his life. Angels at fault here not Meredith...

MLC

Ok, so a man pulls a gun on you (not knowing its loaded or not) and you don't retaliate?

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HEILOOBAAS
Meredith Hunter was a thug who thought he was Big Man & his hubris killed him. End of.

How do you know ?

The Angels were rednecks to begin with,they clearly were picking on him because he was with a white woman,his only mistake was he did not take a couple of Angels with him.

Coming Down Again

Been argued before.

[www.iorr.org]

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MCDDTLC
Angels at fault here not Meredith...

MLC

There's enough blame to go around (Stones included)........but he was killed
because he was waving the gun around.

Not sure why MH always gets the benefit of the doubt.....none of you know what
was said or done by either side. And there was some saying he was pointing at the stage.


IORR............but I like it!

give me a break.in a crowd that big i would have disappeared in about 2 seconds if the angels started messing with me.instead mister tough guy pulled a gun,a gun that everyone was supposed to know was unloaded.how were they supposed to know that exactly? another poor black victim right? take that crap somewhere else,he got what he deserved.

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lem motlow
give me a break.in a crowd that big i would have disappeared in about 2 seconds if the angels started messing with me.instead mister tough guy pulled a gun,a gun that everyone was supposed to know was unloaded.how were they supposed to know that exactly? another poor black victim right? take that crap somewhere else,he got what he deserved.

Yeah,the human touch...

nice boobs on that chick in the poster

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HEILOOBAAS
Meredith Hunter was a thug who thought he was Big Man & his hubris killed him. End of.

How do you know ?

Did you read the article or just look at the pictures, lad?

"he who shoots first" doesn't really apply no? the gun wielding lunatic was taken out by a hells angel armed only with a knife.a gutsy move i'm sure anyone would agree.its reality 2009 style,you're still a victim no matter what you did because the other guy was a "racist"

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lem motlow
the gun wielding lunatic was taken out by a hells angel armed only with a knife.a gutsy move i'm sure anyone would agree.

And the way I remember seeing it, Hunter's arm was fully extended by the time the Angel came in the film's frame.

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HEILOOBAAS

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HEILOOBAAS
Meredith Hunter was a thug who thought he was Big Man & his hubris killed him. End of.

How do you know ?

Did you read the article or just look at the pictures, lad?

Both.
And the question still remains.

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lem motlow
give me a break.in a crowd that big i would have disappeared in about 2 seconds if the angels started messing with me.instead mister tough guy pulled a gun,a gun that everyone was supposed to know was unloaded.how were they supposed to know that exactly? another poor black victim right? take that crap somewhere else,he got what he deserved.

Cool username, Lem. Us southern boys know who ya are:

[www.jayski.com]

Oh yeah, IMHO, plenty of blame including Stones, but most to violent, high "Angels" and a very foolish (to pull a gun) Hunter.

What would have been the fallout if Jagger had been murdered? Ya talk about conspiracy theories!

"No Anchovies, Please"

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nice boobs on that chick in the poster

yeh..those would look good in a "white crocheted dress".

re: MH

I gave my opinion a few posts up.

for those that sympathize w/MH because he was a black man with a white woman...
in 1969 San Francisco ..at a rock festival...I'm sure there were several dozen (if not more)
mixed-race couples that the Hells Angels did not mess with. MH had a gun...that was the difference.


IORR............but I like it!

i always found it odd that the airplane and grateful dead passed all the blame to the stones when jerry garcia gave the advice to hire the angels



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sweet neo con
And there was some saying he was pointing at the stage.

Who? Who is "some"?

I'm new to this board....are you-all joking, or is there some white supremisist stuff going on?

This discussion is kinda creeping me out. I'm not sure I can hang with this.

To say it mildly, I think this thread deserves "OT". This is not Stones-related but sharing personal opinions of the rights to kill someone or not, and under what kind of circumstances. Disgusting.

- Doxa

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swiss
I'm new to this board....are you-all joking, or is there some white supremisist stuff going on?

This discussion is kinda creeping me out. I'm not sure I can hang with this.

wtf? where do you see anything racist?

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sweet neo con
And there was some saying he was pointing at the stage.

Who? Who is "some"?

I believe it's mentioned in a movie called GIMME SHELTER. Seen it?

Here's a clip..but not the clip with the guy mentioning that he may
have been pointing at the stage.






IORR............but I like it!

This article from March 27, 2005! says that the police have reopened the case. Any news on those results ?

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Keep On Rolling

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swiss
I'm new to this board....are you-all joking, or is there some white supremisist stuff going on?
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don't come here with that b.s. ...had meredith hunter been a white guy waving a gun around at
a Stones concert, the results (& this discussion) would be similar if not identical.

whether you like it or not the Hells Angels were there to protect your favorite band.
had they not acted...who knows what would have happened.

and whether the gun was loaded or not is irrelevant in that situation....HE PULLED A GUN
at a music festival of 300,000 people.


IORR............but I like it!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-09-23 13:08 by sweet neo con.

I remember reading an earlier quote from Hunter's girlfriend saying that they had been smoking meth all day and her constant praising of Mick Jagger had caused Hunter to pull the gun and run at the stage in a jealous rage, with her trying to restrain him.

It was this quote that had always lent credence to the idea that he was going to take a pop at Jagger, but in this story her take seems to be very different - it makes me wonder whether that original 'quote' was in fact BS...

Still, regardless of anyone's views here on race relations then or now, trying to climb on stage with a gun in your waistband is not a cool move, and waving it around in front of a bunch of bikers is even dumber - despite the ugliness of the situation, self-defence seems a reasonable conclusion...

I was wondering how came Jagger was never afraid while being on stage .
It would have been easy in the "early "days to reach the stage and try to injured or wounded him .Even now ,bags aren't always searched .

The way he has to run all over the stage certainly proceed from the stadiums 'size but it might also be a way to protect himself .



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .