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Who gives a shit about these new CD's? I'll pass. My money will be saved for the only band THAT MATTERS!

still stuck in that sixties junior high thing?

if they beetles are coming PLEASEEEEEEEEEE send them away--- FAR away!

no beatles cd's for me. not that silly game either.

It's taken a while. But it seems the slow its have found this thread. You guys are losing your touch. It took 2 pages of people actually enjoying themselves before you started raining on the parade.

"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"

The MONO releases that I've heard dont sound as good as the Ebbets and Purple Chick releases. Alot of collectors I know actually say Apple should be embarrassed to claim this remastering job!

It's almost 09.09.09. Only a few hours to go!!! It's just like Christmas.

You mean you havent already heard them?

These new versions sound amazingly better than the 1987 cds. Really great sounding. Anyone know how i can join demonoid.com. I really want the mono versions. Gazza ? Anyone ?

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I'm still pissed that you cannot buy the mono editions individualy.

Me too, but what really pisses me off is that they didn't put mono AND stereo versions on the SAME disc. They could have. Beatles albums are really short.

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I'm still pissed that you cannot buy the mono editions individualy.

Me too, but what really pisses me off is that they didn't put mono AND stereo versions on the SAME disc. They could have. Beatles albums are really short.

Its a all a rip-off. I'm just glad I have dug out my fathers original Parlophone mono Sgt Pepper - good nick, too. Don't need the remastered CD! Same goes for Revolver and Help!

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"Mono Masters" is the mono equivalent of the stereo "Past Masters" set. It was designed to fill in the gaps by containing all of the mono masters that are not on the mono albums. Its track listing is similar to the stereo "Past Masters" 2-CD set, but it does vary slightly from the stereo set. As for the singles that weren't on albums, it includes the singles up through and including "Get Back," which was the last single mixed for mono. Although "Get Back" was issued as a stereo single in the U.S., it was a mono single in the U.K. So Mono Masters doesn't have "The Ballad Of John & Yoko," "Old Brown Shoe" or the single version of "Let It Be" because these songs were never mixed for mono, although "You Know My Name" is included because it was issued only in mono.

I think I read somewhere that South American copies of the Hey Jude compilation DO feature mono mixes of The Ballad Of John & Yoko and Old Brown Shoe, but that these are just mono fold-downs of the stereo mixes, not true mono mixes.

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Who gives a shit about these new CD's? I'll pass. My money will be saved for the only band THAT MATTERS!

still stuck in that sixties junior high thing?

No, I'm stuck in that "not-gonna-fall-for-the hype-yet-again" thing. I bought that Let It Be...Naked, I bought Number Ones, I bought the anthologies & I bought crappy Sgt. Pepper. I'm not pissing away my money on the same old shit. I find it HIGHLY amusing that the same frauds (not you!) who carped about buying the new Stones UMG remasters are recommending this shit. Enough already.

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glencar
Who gives a shit about these new CD's? I'll pass. My money will be saved for the only band THAT MATTERS!

still stuck in that sixties junior high thing?

No, I'm stuck in that "not-gonna-fall-for-the hype-yet-again" thing. I bought that Let It Be...Naked, I bought Number Ones, I bought the anthologies & I bought crappy Sgt. Pepper. I'm not pissing away my money on the same old shit. I find it HIGHLY amusing that the same frauds (not you!) who carped about buying the new Stones UMG remasters are recommending this shit. Enough already.

but these are really, really good. honest. and the eyes in my head keep spinning round....

Am I correct in thinking that they have kept the 1987 re-mixes of "Rubber Soul" And "Help" for the Stereo editions and the original 1965 Stereo mixes are added to the mono editions?

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Am I correct in thinking that they have kept the 1987 re-mixes of "Rubber Soul" And "Help" for the Stereo editions and the original 1965 Stereo mixes are added to the mono editions?

I don't follow. I thought the '87 stereo editions were the same as the original stereo vinyl editions?

I thought that the latest incarnations were just remasters and nothing else. I hate complications.

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Am I correct in thinking that they have kept the 1987 re-mixes of "Rubber Soul" And "Help" for the Stereo editions and the original 1965 Stereo mixes are added to the mono editions?

That is my understanding.

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Am I correct in thinking that they have kept the 1987 re-mixes of "Rubber Soul" And "Help" for the Stereo editions and the original 1965 Stereo mixes are added to the mono editions?

I don't follow. I thought the '87 stereo editions were the same as the original stereo vinyl editions?

I thought that the latest incarnations were just remasters and nothing else. I hate complications.

They mostly were, but these 2 albums were re-mixed in 1987 by George Martin because he didn't like the primitive Stereo mixes from 1965.
Those re-mixes were used for the 1987 releases and it appears that they were used for the new Stereo re-masters too.



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Am I correct in thinking that they have kept the 1987 re-mixes of "Rubber Soul" And "Help" for the Stereo editions and the original 1965 Stereo mixes are added to the mono editions?

I don't follow. I thought the '87 stereo editions were the same as the original stereo vinyl editions?

I thought that the latest incarnations were just remasters and nothing else. I hate complications.

The original 1965 stereo mixes of Help and Rubber Soul featured very extreme stereo separation. When those albums were remastered for CD in 1987, George Martin actually created entirely NEW stereo mixes for those albums with much less extreme stereo separation, putting the vocals in the middle, for example, instead of all on one channel. For the 2009 remasters, the stereo CDs of Help and Rubber Soul feature Martin's 1987 remix. The original 1965 stereo mixes of those two albums have been added onto the MONO editions of those CDs.

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The original 1965 stereo mixes of those two albums have been added onto the MONO editions of those CDs.[/quote]

How do you mean, 'added'? Sorry, tatters, am no expert! Do you mean as an extra?



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Ahh, the good 'ol days!

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I'm still pissed that you cannot buy the mono editions individualy.

Me too, but what really pisses me off is that they didn't put mono AND stereo versions on the SAME disc. They could have. Beatles albums are really short.

Yeah thats crap. They could have combined stereo and mono for one great package for each title. And maybe even add the singles on the respective releases to get rid of past masters. Still good stuff. Not gonna buy them though. Just get the FLACs. I already gave them my money once.

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No, I'm stuck in that "not-gonna-fall-for-the hype-yet-again" thing. I bought that Let It Be...Naked, I bought Number Ones, I bought the anthologies & I bought crappy Sgt. Pepper. I'm not pissing away my money on the same old shit. I find it HIGHLY amusing that the same frauds (not you!) who carped about buying the new Stones UMG remasters are recommending this shit. Enough already.

Actually, it's not hype. It's a better product is all. Don't buy it if you already have it or it's not for you, but do think about the 17 year old who's buying his or her first Beatles cd's. Should they buy the old ones? Or should they be happy that their actually attempting to improve the quality of the cd's without compromising the work?

Sometimes things aren't always about folks who are old enough to have been there and they're for a new audience to get the chance to experience a version of what others once found so enchanting about a band. The Beatles are doing this, or at least attempting it here with these remasters. Don't buy it if you're not buyin' it, but don't jump on the idea as a bad conspiracy plot, just . . . let it be.


On the internet nobody knows
you're Mick Jagger

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The original 1965 stereo mixes of those two albums have been added onto the MONO editions of those CDs.

How do you mean, 'added'? Sorry, tatters, am no expert! Do you mean as an extra?[/quote]

Yes. The mono versions of Help and Rubber Soul will feature the 1965 mono AND stereo versions of those albums. Of course, these will only be available in the mono box set, which brings us back to the things that piss us off! (LOL)



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Big Al
I'm still pissed that you cannot buy the mono editions individualy.

Me too, but what really pisses me off is that they didn't put mono AND stereo versions on the SAME disc. They could have. Beatles albums are really short.

Yeah thats crap. They could have combined stereo and mono for one great package for each title. And maybe even add the singles on the respective releases to get rid of past masters. Still good stuff. Not gonna buy them though. Just get the FLACs. I already gave them my money once.

i think they have my money thrice....

bee gees did a nice job offering their early albums in mono & stereo on a single disc....great, great albums, too...

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Big Al
I'm still pissed that you cannot buy the mono editions individualy.

Me too, but what really pisses me off is that they didn't put mono AND stereo versions on the SAME disc. They could have. Beatles albums are really short.

Yeah thats crap. They could have combined stereo and mono for one great package for each title. And maybe even add the singles on the respective releases to get rid of past masters. Still good stuff. Not gonna buy them though. Just get the FLACs. I already gave them my money once.

Add the singles? You mean like having Paperback Writer and Rain as bonus tracks on Revolver? I like it!

Yeah. The singles from the same period of each album on the respective album. Captures the whole vibe

Yoko's announced (don't know why she did this) that the Beatles will be on iTunes starting tomorrow.

I wonder how long it'll be before the Beatles game is played on iPods.

edit: EMI's now disputing Yoko's claim that The Beatles will be on iTunes.

Kind of reminds me of a song:

You say yes, I say no
You say stop and I say go, go, go
Oh, no . . .

or is that Ono?


On the internet nobody knows
you're Mick Jagger



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Actually, I see the sense of not combining them all on one disc for one box set. Most fans don't want all the stuff on a single disc...and are not as interested in trawling through numerous versions. Now I am not one of them, but also like the novelty of the Mono Box being a stand alone from the Stereo. Yeah, it is more cash, but a nice collectors curio. I am buy a few so when they go out of print...Ebay!

I didnt mean on one disc. Same album title package and two discs. One stereo and one mono. I dont like those combined discs either. Would be convenient. But I also agree that the mono box set is a cool collectors item.

I'm sure that Steve Jobs is not happy with Yoko. Who is. I heard this deal with Itunes rumored last week is worth about $600 million. One reason was the original copyright infringement suit settlement in the 1980's over the name Apple. Apple computers agreed never to get into the music business.

I can't for my mono set.