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You can really only compare a record's heaviness with other records that were recorded right around the same time. In 1964, for example, probably nothing was heavier than You Really Got Me and All Day And All Of The Night .... although I Feel Fine comes close, especially when you hear it newly remastered.

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Beelyboy
jeff beck invented heavy metal. just sayin...

It would be interesting to see just how far back we can trace the roots of what came to be known as Heavy Metal. Jeff Beck was always on the cutting edge of what was considered "heavy" at any given time. The Yardbirds Heart Full Of Soul, with Beck on lead, was heavy for its day, but Ticket To Ride, recorded even earlier, in Feb. '65, is even heavier. In everything they did, the Beatles always managed to be just ahead of the curve.

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Barn Owl
The Who's "I Can See For Miles", with its no-holds-barred, sheer unadulterated onslaught of noise, was my own particular embryonic moment in the heavy metal stakes.

...sounds as good today, as it ever did.

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Happy Jack
Ive heard this statement before: How is Ticket to Ride heavy metal? There is nothing heavy about that song, not the guitar, not the drums, not the bass or even the vocals.

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Happy Jack
Ive heard this statement before: How is Ticket to Ride heavy metal? There is nothing heavy about that song, not the guitar, not the drums, not the bass or even the vocals.

Ticket To Ride is not heavy metal, but it's definitely a precursor, an ancestor, to heavy metal. It was, at the time it was recorded, in Feb 65, the heaviest rock and roll sound that had ever been put down on tape.

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Happy Jack
Ive heard this statement before: How is Ticket to Ride heavy metal? There is nothing heavy about that song, not the guitar, not the drums, not the bass or even the vocals.

Ticket To Ride is not heavy metal, but it's definitely a precursor, an ancestor, to heavy metal. It was, at the time it was recorded, in Feb 65, the heaviest rock and roll sound that had ever been put down on tape.

I can't tell if you are joking. Are you? If not please explain how "Ticket to Ride" is a precursor to heavy metal. I'm anxious to read your response...

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Beelyboy
jeff beck invented heavy metal. just sayin...

It would be interesting to see just how far back we can trace the roots of what came to be known as Heavy Metal. Jeff Beck was always on the cutting edge of what was considered "heavy" at any given time. The Yardbirds Heart Full Of Soul, with Beck on lead, was heavy for its day, but Ticket To Ride, recorded even earlier, in Feb. '65, is even heavier. In everything they did, the Beatles always managed to be just ahead of the curve.

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Nanker Phlegm
I've being inputing data all week into my CRAY Super Mainframe, sales, impact,beards,hair on the abck of the enck syndrome, critical acclaim,public perception and laods more and the results are in. The The BeaTles were in fact underestimated world wide by a factor of 18.9% the The subject is now closed.

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I am the best ever. End of discussion.

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Beelyboy
jeff beck invented heavy metal. just sayin...

It would be interesting to see just how far back we can trace the roots of what came to be known as Heavy Metal. Jeff Beck was always on the cutting edge of what was considered "heavy" at any given time. The Yardbirds Heart Full Of Soul, with Beck on lead, was heavy for its day, but Ticket To Ride, recorded even earlier, in Feb. '65, is even heavier. In everything they did, the Beatles always managed to be just ahead of the curve.

Between that power chord riff and the early use of distortion, the Kinks invented heavy metal on You Really Got Me. All roads to heaviosity begin at You Really Got Me.

On the sixth day, Dave Davies carved up the speaker cone on his green amp and asked "How much heavier could there be?" And Ray responded "None. None more heavy." And thus the metal church came into being.

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I post at other boards but I never go there & say, "STONES ARE THE BEST!!!!" which is what I see on this board. Again, the beatles are a fine pop band; no more & no less. Please Please Me is probably the equivalent of Tell Me but around 1967 the Stones started soaring well above. BTW Thanks for disagreeing respectfully. Others could learn.

This is a message board that is made up, predominantly, of Rolling Stones fans (myself included), most of whom have an active passion for music generally. It's why we're here; it's why we thrive as a community; each one of us bringing something to the table so that others can share, agree, disagree, reminisce, speculate, debate or even laugh with. Much of it is about the Stones (naturally), while the remainder is made up from all manner of “Off-Topic” posts.

It is of no surprise therefore, to find that a major event, such as the long-awaited launch of the Beatles Re-Masters, becomes a topic to invoke considerable interest from those of us here who happen to have an interest in the Fab Four. Naturally, it will also attract a fair number of jokers and detractors; and there is no problem with that. If someone, such as Beelyboy for example, isn’t sufficiently moved by the Re-Masters series, then he is fully (and quite rightly) entitled to his opinion. Additionally, if someone simply does not like the Beatles, then fair enough. It’s their opinion and they should be respected for it.

The situation is different however, when other posters such as yourself, use the thread as a means of propagating their own childish, hate-fuelled agendas; put simply, it gets up other people’s noses, especially when it is pre-empted with the patronising, “Honestly, I’m not a Beatles hater, but….” type of attack.

It is these same posters who do not seem to be able to get it into their thick skulls that the very people here who are praising the Beatles efforts are Rolling Stones fans themselves, and NOT some kind of perceived enemy from within; these same idiots who are happy to proclaim the Stones as the biggest grossing live act in the world, but will race to pour scorn upon anyone else’s success, regardless of whether it is U2, Springsteen, or, heaven forbid, the Beatles. That’s when denial sets in, and the term, “overrated” conveniently comes into force as a desperate last line of defence, simply because someone has had the temerity to point out the hard FACTS about the Fab Four’s phenomenal and unmatched success.

Significantly, they are also the first to bleat and cry wolf when those of us who actually CARE about music, provide impassioned responses to their childish, bigoted perspectives.

…what else do you morons expect?