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Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: sweet neo con ()
Date: July 28, 2015 21:47

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The only other one I can think of is Let It Bleed, which was originally titled Automatic Changer.

i feel like the history of the band would have been completely different if they had stuck with that (horrible) title..

nah. obviously makes more literal sense assuming same album art. album names dont change history.

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: sweet neo con ()
Date: July 28, 2015 21:50

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Hope you know what i mean. So lets go:

Their satanic majesties request was cosmic christmas

Aftermath could you walk on the water

Exile on main Street Tropical desease

A bigger Bang Manhatten Beach

You know some more???

I like each of the alternates as titles...particularly Cosmic Christmas and Manhattan Beach.

Manhattan Beach is way better than A Bigger Bang

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: erikjjf ()
Date: July 28, 2015 21:56

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Never believed that Manhattan Beach was a working title for ABB.

Design plans for what was to become the ABB tour stage:




Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: Slick ()
Date: July 29, 2015 02:38

flashpoint = got vegas if you want it

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: daniel t ()
Date: July 29, 2015 03:20

I think Stripped was supposed to be called ''Butt Naked'' originally.

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: TheGreek ()
Date: July 29, 2015 17:38

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19 STITCHES was bandied about at a time when nine other tracks were under consideration at the first mixing sessions in late summer 1985. I always wondered if a possible double album was planned. The weird thing is just how many Keith lead vocals we would have had. The other nine tracks listed at the time were: Strictly Memphis, Nobody's Perfect, Deep Love, Crushed Pearl, You're Too Much, Treat Me Like a Fool, Some of Us Are On Our Knees, Your Love, and I Can't See Nobody. Granted some of the outtakes sung by Keith might have also had Mick vocals by the mixing stage. Still, I'd love to hear the finished (or nearly finished versions) of these tracks.

Reading about this for the 1st time now, I get the feeling they threw out the wrong songs and "Dirty Work" could have been a better album had they chosen some of the other tracks for it.

It's too bad this is not a famous record or we would get to hear all of those sooner or later on an expanded reissue. I think they would be worth releasing anyway. Or maybe I'm just curious.
to bad the Stones did not tour in support of Dirty Work .think about the set list and how much fun that would have been with the song selections ?

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: July 29, 2015 17:59

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Never believed that Manhattan Beach was a working title for ABB.

Design plans for what was to become the ABB tour stage:




That was new to me. You have more photos like this?

JumpingKentFlash

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: OldSoul ()
Date: July 30, 2015 01:38

Most of these early titles were pretty bad sounding.

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: July 30, 2015 16:23

..and Black and Blue 'Tripped'...

2 1 2 0

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: June 7, 2020 21:11

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Rocky Dijon
19 STITCHES was bandied about at a time when nine other tracks were under consideration at the first mixing sessions in late summer 1985. I always wondered if a possible double album was planned. The weird thing is just how many Keith lead vocals we would have had. The other nine tracks listed at the time were: Strictly Memphis, Nobody's Perfect, Deep Love, Crushed Pearl, You're Too Much, Treat Me Like a Fool, Some of Us Are On Our Knees, Your Love, and I Can't See Nobody. Granted some of the outtakes sung by Keith might have also had Mick vocals by the mixing stage. Still, I'd love to hear the finished (or nearly finished versions) of these tracks.

Wow had missed that and never heard of 19 tracks being under consideration. Was that info published in Bill German's fanzine ?

AFAIK only "Nobody's Perfect" hasn't been booted, at least under that title ? It's hard to see how "Some of Us Are On Our Knees" could have been considered unless it was considerably reworked late in the game. "Your Love" is probably "What Am I Gonna Do With Your Love".

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Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: June 7, 2020 22:32

'Yessirreeeeeeee', 'Eat it' and 'Tropical Disease' were working titles for Exile.

I'm not really convinced that 'Pretty Beat Up' was originally called 'Dogshit'. Mick, Keith and Bill were interviewed (separately) by the BBC for the release of 'Undercover' in November 1983 and Bill was talking about their working methods and I got the impression at the time from his tone that that it was merely an example of an absurd working title rather than one they actually used.

Its a series of interviews that are worth tracking down, by the way, especially to hear Keith doing a hilarious impersonation of Max Miller.

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: June 7, 2020 22:54

Working title for LET IT BLEED was apparently HARD SOX AND DIRTY KNOX, which is announced in the liner notes, where as AUTOMATIC CHANGER was the title... until it got changed to as we know it.



At least, and I know there has been some talk of aspects of these album art stories having some errors, based right here:

The Let It Bleed album cover art is largely the product of one man and his friendship with Keith Richards.
The cover was wonderfully and weirdly congruent with the album title when that title was Automatic
Changer. In 1969 and even today it would be/is incongruous with the title, unless you are bent on seeing
meaning in everything that is done to create an album. Sometimes a surreal automatic changer is just an
automatic changer and not a depiction of the many delicately balanced forces of 1960s society on the
front cover and their destruction on the back cover. Already I digress, let’s back up and start at the
beginning.
“Hard Knox and Durty Sox” is the working title that Keith Richards had in mind while putting this album
together. In June, 1969 the Stones announced they would be releasing two new albums that year, one,
entitled Sticky Fingers, in September and another in December. In the July 26, 1969 issue of DISC
magazine Keith talked about the new album. DISC said, “Keith says he has enjoyed making this new LP
much more than Beggars Banquet; working with new Stone, Mick Taylor, has been one factor. Taylor’s
joining the band has resulted in more energetic music, according to Richards, although he only appears
on three tracks on the forthcoming LP to be titled: Sticky Fingers”. But Sticky Fingers would not be first
to the finish line.

[iorr.org]

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: June 7, 2020 23:01

It's too bad STEEL WHEELS wasn't a working title.

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: June 8, 2020 23:31

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It's too bad STEEL WHEELS wasn't a working title.

How about STUFFED POTATOES ?

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: June 8, 2020 23:40

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It's too bad STEEL WHEELS wasn't a working title.

How about STUFFED POTATOES ?

AU GRATIN would've been a lot better!

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: June 9, 2020 08:40

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It's too bad STEEL WHEELS wasn't a working title.

How about STUFFED POTATOES ?

AU GRATIN would've been a lot better!

Agree. I find SW easily as tasty as the gratins my wife makes winking smiley

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: ukcal ()
Date: June 9, 2020 13:40

Maybe Mick could right a wrong, and add some vocals to a Dirty work delux release like he did with exile,some girls and is currenlty doing with goats head.........and we all stop saying what a shite album DW is!

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: September 15, 2025 13:18

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Rocky Dijon
19 STITCHES was bandied about at a time when nine other tracks were under consideration at the first mixing sessions in late summer 1985. I always wondered if a possible double album was planned. The weird thing is just how many Keith lead vocals we would have had. The other nine tracks listed at the time were: Strictly Memphis, Nobody's Perfect, Deep Love, Crushed Pearl, You're Too Much, Treat Me Like a Fool, Some of Us Are On Our Knees, Your Love, and I Can't See Nobody. Granted some of the outtakes sung by Keith might have also had Mick vocals by the mixing stage. Still, I'd love to hear the finished (or nearly finished versions) of these tracks.

So we now have two "Keith outtake" songs sung by Mick ;-)

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Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: snoopy2 ()
Date: September 15, 2025 18:38

If Exile had been released as Tropical Disease I think it would have aged just as well.. Cool and fitting title if we had never known “Exile”

Re: so called working titles of Rolling Stones albums
Posted by: wupperstein ()
Date: September 15, 2025 19:28

Early Some Girls working title was Lie Detector

Re: the "Working"-Titles--Album or 7inch
Date: September 16, 2025 12:57

I remember an interview with Mick while recording Dirty Work. Back then the working title for the album was Back To Zero.

Re: the "Working"-Titles--Album or 7inch
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: September 17, 2025 21:53

I see I pasted a paragraph from [iorr.org] about HARD KNOX AND DIRTY SOX being a working title for AUTOMATIC CHANGER, which eventually found its way to an album - in the liner notes of STICKY FINGERS.

If they had called what became LET IT BLEED STICKY FINGERS instead... although the album titles are entrenched with the artwork, LIB is outright bizarre since that was specifically done for the automatic changing turntable and has zero connection to the artwork.

TSMR and the RSVP version of BEGGARS BANQUET are in line with the titles.

TATTOO YOU is possibly the most connected to the artwork, with SOME GIRLS a very close second. UNDERCOVER has the silly stickers over... not what one would think.

There's zero connection with GOATS HEAD SOUP until you see the inside slip or whatever it's called with the intended album cover.

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