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Or even the angels.
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won't be there until the 6th...can you save me a banger or something?
just don't go drowning in a drainage ditch.
you and 30,000 Kanye West fans.....enjoy
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What's the weather like there on the 5th Dec? it's a bit cold over hear in England. Suppose it must be quite nice or they wouldn't have had a concert there in the first place.
If a good crowd of people went with guitars and sound systems then it wouldn't just be an open field.
On December 5, 1981 the Stones played to 87,500 at the Dome. At that time, it was the indoor attendance record.
given they occurred around the same time, if we wind up organizing both, i'm putting in a request to combine the events...it's a busy year on my calendar already...thanks.
we could sacrifice a random iorrean....
Does it have to be random? I'd prefer a nomination process followed by a vote.
Couldn't we sacrifice a shidoobean instead?
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Is Keno available? LOL
OK smart ass. I thought u were something of a historian and there is nothing like being on the site of an event. If it doesn't interest u, there are others.
the plexi-man
ps good one, tho!!
on second thought, now I see what u have in mind Gazza: not a tour but a REENACTMENT!!
I know all about those as we have not one but two separate reenactments here every year of the Battle of the Little Big Horn, one done by Indians and one more done by the white commuity but of course using Native and white (re-en)actors in both. BTW, did u know that quite a number of the members of the 7th Cavalry were immigrants from Ireland??!!
Most notably Captain Myles Keough, who in a previous life had been a member of the Swiss papal guards. His body and those of his company were found south and down the slope from Custer.
The Battlefield is only about 3 miles from where I live and I used to work and give all the tours there BUT I was never in the re-enactment tho several of my wife's Crow relatives were and still are in it every year, and so was my wife and our kids, playing the Indians in the Lakota village.
But I got news: they turn out the same every year: the Indians win, Custer dies.
plexi
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-05-20 23:18 by timbernardis.
yeah, fairly close, it is near Livermore, a guess would be 40-50 minute drive from The City
BAPS members -- please correct that if I am wrong
No offense but can you not behave in a socially acceptable manner?
did I say "celebration" -- no, it would be a historical tour and at most a commemoration which tend to take place at places whether something good, bad, big or notable, or even small, have happened.
p
with limited information and no imagination for "seeing" the past or finding out exactly where things took place, I suppose u would be right.
Haven't u ever had an interest in seeing the actual site of where something took place tho the place may appear "empty" or totally changed. That's the case with lots of historical sites.
Just being there is enuf for a lot of people and with a little "field guidance", it can become an interesting if not magical experience for people. "Reconstruction" of an event is often fascinating, whether that event was good, bad or neither.
Come sometime to Montana and I will take u on a tour of the Little Big Horn Battlefield and you MAY see what I mean. I bring the past alive.
plexi
i like to be surprised...even if i'm the surprisee
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Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
Manofwealthandtaste
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Date: May 20, 2009 16:23
.....just dusting down my first edition Shelley......
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
odean73
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Date: May 20, 2009 16:35
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Nanker Phlegm
Let's be sensible here, we don't want people getting hurt, I know lets get the Angles to do security !
Or even the angels.
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
Chris Fountain
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Date: May 20, 2009 16:57
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timbernardis
Some might think this is sick, or impossible, but many of us know people who were there and could provide informal "guide service" or something of that ilk.
A few months ago, I mentioned to my brother that some time when I am back home in Northern California, that he and I go out to the site and I could record his memories on-site with a video camera.
Yes, it might mean a helluva bit of walking, but nothing triggers memories like being on the site of a particular event. This is a common experience in doing oral history with people, say, veterans of a particular battle or anything really.
Maybe one could not even gain access to the site, maybe it or the egress to the area is in private hands who would not allow it or want a lot of money, but who knows? You can be sure that the same thing will happen with Woodstock in August, probably already tour groups are organized and paid for.
Say whatever u will about the event, history was made there. OK, go ahead and quibble that it was not that significant, but I still think it would be an interesting thing to do.
"Yeah, are we gonna have Mick and Sonny Barger lead us on tours??" -- ok, bring it on, but I think it would be fascinating if done properly with history "brought alive" by some people who were there.
the plexi-man
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Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
Nanker Phlegm
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Date: May 20, 2009 17:10
the angles DOH
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
T&A
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Date: May 20, 2009 17:14
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Manofwealthandtaste
For us Londoners......perhaps a picnic in Hyde Park on 5th July?!
won't be there until the 6th...can you save me a banger or something?
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
sweetcharmedlife
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Date: May 20, 2009 17:27
Couldn't we just go to a bar instead.
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
Kurt
()
Date: May 20, 2009 17:52
C'mon...
Celebrating this anniversary sounds like a mighty bad idea to me.
In 1997, a man died at the Pontiac Silverdome during a Stones show. Do you want to come here to the site and celebrate that too?
Since the Silverdome has been vacant for a number of years, and Pontiac Michigan is in serious decline, the landscapes are probably similar.
Celebrating this anniversary sounds like a mighty bad idea to me.
In 1997, a man died at the Pontiac Silverdome during a Stones show. Do you want to come here to the site and celebrate that too?
Since the Silverdome has been vacant for a number of years, and Pontiac Michigan is in serious decline, the landscapes are probably similar.
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
skipstone
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Date: May 20, 2009 17:55
I think it's a fantastic idea to go celebrate Altamont - get a bunch of people together and go stand or sit in a field.
GENIUS.
GENIUS.
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
Adrian-L
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Date: May 20, 2009 17:58
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skipstone
I think it's a fantastic idea to go celebrate Altamont - get a bunch of people together and go stand or sit in a field.
just don't go drowning in a drainage ditch.
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
mccparty
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Date: May 20, 2009 18:12
What's the Dec. 5th, New Orleans annivesary?
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
Adrian-L
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Date: May 20, 2009 18:26
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Manofwealthandtaste
For us Londoners......perhaps a picnic in Hyde Park on 5th July?!
you and 30,000 Kanye West fans.....enjoy
[www.wirelessfestival.co.uk]
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
pgarof
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Date: May 20, 2009 18:38
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mccparty
What's the Dec. 5th, New Orleans annivesary?
What's the weather like there on the 5th Dec? it's a bit cold over hear in England. Suppose it must be quite nice or they wouldn't have had a concert there in the first place.
If a good crowd of people went with guitars and sound systems then it wouldn't just be an open field.
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
ghostryder13
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Date: May 20, 2009 20:43
to me that would be like celebrating the 40th anniversary of the manson killings. it's poor taste to celebrate something where people died for no reason.
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
Shawn20
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Date: May 20, 2009 21:46
Quote
mccparty
What's the Dec. 5th, New Orleans annivesary?
On December 5, 1981 the Stones played to 87,500 at the Dome. At that time, it was the indoor attendance record.
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
T&A
()
Date: May 20, 2009 21:53
Quote
ghostryder13
to me that would be like celebrating the 40th anniversary of the manson killings. it's poor taste to celebrate something where people died for no reason.
given they occurred around the same time, if we wind up organizing both, i'm putting in a request to combine the events...it's a busy year on my calendar already...thanks.
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
Chris Fountain
()
Date: May 20, 2009 22:06
This brings up another question - The New Orleans VooDoo Lounge concert was broadcast live nationwide on most radio stations. Any attendance numbers from that show?
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
sundevil
()
Date: May 20, 2009 22:31
good idea!! who's gonna be the dead guy?
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
T&A
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Date: May 20, 2009 22:36
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sundevil
good idea!! who's gonna be the dead guy?
we could sacrifice a random iorrean....
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
WMiller
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Date: May 20, 2009 23:02
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T&AQuote
sundevil
good idea!! who's gonna be the dead guy?
we could sacrifice a random iorrean....
Does it have to be random? I'd prefer a nomination process followed by a vote.
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
sweetcharmedlife
()
Date: May 20, 2009 23:03
Quote
T&AQuote
sundevil
good idea!! who's gonna be the dead guy?
we could sacrifice a random iorrean....
Couldn't we sacrifice a shidoobean instead?
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
Chris Fountain
()
Date: May 20, 2009 23:05
Quote
sweetcharmedlifeQuote
T&AQuote
sundevil
good idea!! who's gonna be the dead guy?
we could sacrifice a random iorrean....
Couldn't we sacrifice a shidoobean instead?
Is Keno available? LOL
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
timbernardis
()
Date: May 20, 2009 23:11
Quote
Gazza
>How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
To do what? Have a fight at dawn?
Do we have to bring our own knives and pool cues or will they be provided?
OK smart ass. I thought u were something of a historian and there is nothing like being on the site of an event. If it doesn't interest u, there are others.
the plexi-man
ps good one, tho!!
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
timbernardis
()
Date: May 20, 2009 23:14
Quote
Gazza
>How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
To do what? Have a fight at dawn?
Do we have to bring our own knives and pool cues or will they be provided?
on second thought, now I see what u have in mind Gazza: not a tour but a REENACTMENT!!
I know all about those as we have not one but two separate reenactments here every year of the Battle of the Little Big Horn, one done by Indians and one more done by the white commuity but of course using Native and white (re-en)actors in both. BTW, did u know that quite a number of the members of the 7th Cavalry were immigrants from Ireland??!!
Most notably Captain Myles Keough, who in a previous life had been a member of the Swiss papal guards. His body and those of his company were found south and down the slope from Custer.
The Battlefield is only about 3 miles from where I live and I used to work and give all the tours there BUT I was never in the re-enactment tho several of my wife's Crow relatives were and still are in it every year, and so was my wife and our kids, playing the Indians in the Lakota village.
But I got news: they turn out the same every year: the Indians win, Custer dies.
plexi
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-05-20 23:18 by timbernardis.
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
timbernardis
()
Date: May 20, 2009 23:21
Quote
VoodooLounge13
Wait a minute....Altamont is near San Fran?! Oh please say it isn't so - I was in San Fran about 7 years ago, and had I known I certainly would have made this little trek over to check out the track!!
yeah, fairly close, it is near Livermore, a guess would be 40-50 minute drive from The City
BAPS members -- please correct that if I am wrong
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
Chris Fountain
()
Date: May 20, 2009 23:25
Quote
timbernardisQuote
Gazza
>How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
To do what? Have a fight at dawn?
Do we have to bring our own knives and pool cues or will they be provided?
OK smart ass. I thought u were something of a historian and there is nothing like being on the site of an event. If it doesn't interest u, there are others.
the plexi-man
ps good one, tho!!
No offense but can you not behave in a socially acceptable manner?
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
skipstone
()
Date: May 20, 2009 23:39
I was at the Voodoo Lounge NOLA show and I think the attendance, as I recall since I sat wherever I wanted to, was below 23,000. There were 65,000 available. If that helps any.
Explains why they haven't bothered to come back. Yet alone city politics and the cost of renting the Dome for 3 days (basically $300,000). They actually lost money on that show.
Explains why they haven't bothered to come back. Yet alone city politics and the cost of renting the Dome for 3 days (basically $300,000). They actually lost money on that show.
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
MKjan
()
Date: May 20, 2009 23:56
If it's a reenactment, let's be revisionists and string up Sonny, and does anyone know where I can get a metal detector.
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
timbernardis
()
Date: May 21, 2009 00:19
Quote
Kurt
C'mon...
Celebrating this anniversary sounds like a mighty bad idea to me.
In 1997, a man died at the Pontiac Silverdome during a Stones show. Do you want to come here to the site and celebrate that too?
Since the Silverdome has been vacant for a number of years, and Pontiac Michigan is in serious decline, the landscapes are probably similar.
did I say "celebration" -- no, it would be a historical tour and at most a commemoration which tend to take place at places whether something good, bad, big or notable, or even small, have happened.
p
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
timbernardis
()
Date: May 21, 2009 00:24
Quote
skipstone
I think it's a fantastic idea to go celebrate Altamont - get a bunch of people together and go stand or sit in a field.
GENIUS.
with limited information and no imagination for "seeing" the past or finding out exactly where things took place, I suppose u would be right.
Haven't u ever had an interest in seeing the actual site of where something took place tho the place may appear "empty" or totally changed. That's the case with lots of historical sites.
Just being there is enuf for a lot of people and with a little "field guidance", it can become an interesting if not magical experience for people. "Reconstruction" of an event is often fascinating, whether that event was good, bad or neither.
Come sometime to Montana and I will take u on a tour of the Little Big Horn Battlefield and you MAY see what I mean. I bring the past alive.
plexi
Re: How About Organizing a 40th Anniversary Trip to Altamont on Dec. 6th??
Posted by:
T&A
()
Date: May 21, 2009 00:31
Quote
WMillerQuote
T&AQuote
sundevil
good idea!! who's gonna be the dead guy?
we could sacrifice a random iorrean....
Does it have to be random? I'd prefer a nomination process followed by a vote.
i like to be surprised...even if i'm the surprisee
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