'Dirty Work' believe it or not now marks the half way point of the band's recording career. Yet they've only released four studio albums since it. Or, to put it another way, they'd released 272 songs in the first half of their career, and just 80 in the second half.

The point of every decade being included on each record for the Warhorses thing was, that list of songs? Some bizarre choices. And as I recall the Twenty Hundreds were not on it, so that decade - the one we're currently in - was not represented, at least as far as I can recall.

How accurate it was I dunno. It seemed a bit odd. 3 records that included songs that they've never reissued on any hits comp.

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'Dirty Work' believe it or not now marks the half way point of the band's recording career. Yet they've only released four studio albums since it. Or, to put it another way, they'd released 272 songs in the first half of their career, and just 80 in the second half.

When looked at that way, that's shocking...

Er - so how does Dirty Work work out to be half way through their recording career if they'd done 272 before and only 80 afterwords? That's not exactly half. Do you mean half way as far as being a band? Because half way as far as recording goes changes with each album release.

If you remove the years without record releases and tally up the amount of releases (not sure regardless more than one a year) then the years don't really matter, it's the amount of albums.

I think I've counted this right - actual 'new' albums, A Bigger Bang is #24. So that would make Exile as their half way point.

As far as number of releases where half way would be.



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I think he meant halfway chronilogically, as in # of years...

you count funny, skippy....

something i've wondered about for awhile is the stones have always seemed laid back about bootleg releases. i've often wondered if back in the day if someone in the stones camp gave tapes to bootlegers to keep abkco from cashing in on them . alot of the early (60's & 70's) studio outtakes are very good quality and some the live bootleg material from the early 70's are decent soundboard recordings .

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Er - so how does Dirty Work work out to be half way through their recording career if they'd done 272 before and only 80 afterwords? That's not exactly half. Do you mean half way as far as being a band? Because half way as far as recording goes changes with each album release.

If you remove the years without record releases and tally up the amount of releases (not sure regardless more than one a year) then the years don't really matter, it's the amount of albums.

I think I've counted this right - actual 'new' albums, A Bigger Bang is #24. So that would make Exile as their half way point.

As far as number of releases where half way would be.

The length of their recording career is based on time elapsed, not number of songs,

Dirty Work came out in 1986
1963 - 1986 = 23 years
1986 - 2009 = 23 years.

Therefore, DW is halfway through their recording career.

My point was that the amount of output in the second half is a fraction of that in the first half.

In terms of songs theyve released, Goats Head Soup is where they reached the half way point, some ten years into a 46 year career.

Concert wise, they reached the half way mark in terms of shows played in 1969.



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^Shocking!

i don't think serious people think of them as a band anymore, anyway - just a group of blokes who get together to milk the cash cow every few years when ronnie runs out of booze bucks. figure the band ceased being a band somewhere around 1985...so the actual halfway mark would be around 1974 or so....

please re-run your numbers accordingly....

Oh please..... enough already!

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Oh please..... enough already!

you didn't say pretty please, so there'll be more i'm afraid

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i don't think serious people think of them as a band anymore, anyway - just a group of blokes who get together to milk the cash cow every few years when ronnie runs out of booze bucks. figure the band ceased being a band somewhere around 1985...so the actual halfway mark would be around 1974 or so....

please re-run your numbers accordingly....

I can agree with this. I certainly don't consider them a band anymore...I don't listen to anything they've done past the It's Only Rock and Roll album, so your analysis works for me!

"StonesFanatic" and hasn't managed an album by said band in 35 years

"you didn't say pretty please, so there'll be more i'm afraid"

As long as it's funny!

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"StonesFanatic" and hasn't managed an album by said band in 35 years

"you didn't say pretty please, so there'll be more i'm afraid"

As long as it's funny!

So I'm a fanatic for the material up to 1974, so what? By your logic I can't be a huge Beatles (1970), Who (1978), or Led Zeppelin (1980) fan because it's been ages since they had new albums as well, eh?

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"StonesFanatic" and hasn't managed an album by said band in 35 years

"you didn't say pretty please, so there'll be more i'm afraid"

As long as it's funny!

So I'm a fanatic for the material up to 1974, so what? By your logic I can't be a huge Beatles (1970), Who (1978), or Led Zeppelin (1980) fan because it's been ages since they had new albums as well, eh?

ablett was just showing the way by being funny...or something.

Or maybe the way of being a jerk? ...or something :-)

"By your logic I can't be a huge Beatles (1970), Who (1978), or Led Zeppelin (1980) fan because it's been ages since they had new albums as well, eh?"

Beatles finished in '70
Zep finished in '80
Who pretty well finished in 82

Stones carry on for another 35 years and you find nothing of worth?

Great!

And bless T&A you do persevere...

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"By your logic I can't be a huge Beatles (1970), Who (1978), or Led Zeppelin (1980) fan because it's been ages since they had new albums as well, eh?"

Beatles finished in '70
Zep finished in '80
Who pretty well finished in 82

Stones carry on for another 35 years and you find nothing of worth?

Great!

And bless T&A you do persevere...

You got it exactly right! :-)

Ah, right then. I know I count funny according to some people here. I was attempting to make sense of it. Gazza pointed it out exactly. I was a bit off, ha ha, of course, but I was going by releases, which I thought would have been Exile (they don't really count 12X5 as an album from what I understand) so that's why I picked Exile to be the middle.

Hell, if there is one song on every album that you like then I think you can say each album is, well, viable I guess, to their career.

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I dont know. Musically, its not really anything more than a curio and from what he's said down the years, I can't really imagine him being the sentimental type who's going to spend much time listening to stuff he recorded when he was a kid. I think it was around 1995 when he bought it. I really think it was more to do with having it for future use. Certainly if he was imagining a day when the Stones were going to assemble a project of unreleased recordings (and remember, we almost got one in 2002), then it would be the obvious thing to kick it off with, despite the fact that it's quite primitive.

what was the one we almost got in 2002?

Multi disc set of unreleased recordings and performances which were mooted for the 40th anniversary. Someone copied and pasted the article in another thread from that time about Ronnie saying they had been going through old recordings with a view to releasing them. They put out 40 Licks instead.

batardos!!

were any masters ever made from any of it, in other words, maybe they could be lost, found, and come into the hands of the fanatics like us.


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Ah, right then. I know I count funny according to some people here. I was attempting to make sense of it. Gazza pointed it out exactly. I was a bit off, ha ha, of course, but I was going by releases, which I thought would have been Exile (they don't really count 12X5 as an album from what I understand) so that's why I picked Exile to be the middle.

Hell, if there is one song on every album that you like then I think you can say each album is, well, viable I guess, to their career.

For me, there ain't....therein lies the crux...

the stones are a brilliant money making machine since 89 when on the road, hence the bunch of road apple studio efforts since, they know this so the hunger to create in the studio is no longer there

Come on - there's gotta be ONE song on every album - studio - that you like at the very least. You're telling me there isn't? As bad as TSMR and Buttons and Dirty Work and SW and whatever else here, Undercover, Voodoo, Bridges, Bang - they still all have songs that I like. Period.

of course but they are not brillant albums though