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Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Date: July 7, 2014 23:27

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drbryant
Casino Boogie is a great track, with that loping Keith Bassline and the best two-note sax solo in history.

as for "Kissing Cut in Cans" that makes no sense. I didn't read this thread, but I assume that someone has pointed out that Nellcote is located an hour or so from Cannes on the French Riviera, right?

So, it has to be Cannes.

It was, and with their paper cut-method there are lots of other phrases in this song without meaning as well smiling smiley

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: drbryant ()
Date: July 8, 2014 00:39

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DandelionPowderman
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drbryant
Casino Boogie is a great track, with that loping Keith Bassline and the best two-note sax solo in history.

as for "Kissing Cut in Cans" that makes no sense. I didn't read this thread, but I assume that someone has pointed out that Nellcote is located an hour or so from Cannes on the French Riviera, right?

So, it has to be Cannes.

It was, and with their paper cut-method there are lots of other phrases in this song without meaning as well smiling smiley

Perhaps, but unlike the other meaningless phrases in the song, "kissing cut in cans" sounds awkward and unnatural, something a native speaker would never come up with. Kind of like "you can dance, you can jive, having the time of your life".

It's hard to explain, but it's diction - if something is being dumped or thrown away, an English speaker would always say "in the can" never "in cans" or even "in the cans". It sounds like a something a Japanese guy speaking English would say. I have a hard time explaining this.

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: matxil ()
Date: July 8, 2014 13:49

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but none of that explains "cvnt" over "cut."

What's there to explain? Who's gonna kiss a film-cut? Now, for the other option, especially when you are Mick Jagger and you hardly think of anything else...

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Date: July 8, 2014 14:41

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drbryant
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DandelionPowderman
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drbryant
Casino Boogie is a great track, with that loping Keith Bassline and the best two-note sax solo in history.

as for "Kissing Cut in Cans" that makes no sense. I didn't read this thread, but I assume that someone has pointed out that Nellcote is located an hour or so from Cannes on the French Riviera, right?

So, it has to be Cannes.

It was, and with their paper cut-method there are lots of other phrases in this song without meaning as well smiling smiley

Perhaps, but unlike the other meaningless phrases in the song, "kissing cut in cans" sounds awkward and unnatural, something a native speaker would never come up with. Kind of like "you can dance, you can jive, having the time of your life".

It's hard to explain, but it's diction - if something is being dumped or thrown away, an English speaker would always say "in the can" never "in cans" or even "in the cans". It sounds like a something a Japanese guy speaking English would say. I have a hard time explaining this.

It's "Cannes", the city, and a reference to the movie festival - "Movie cuts of kisses". But incoherent indeed smiling smiley



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Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: July 8, 2014 15:06

Nice tune, one of the nicest ever to be precise...smiling smiley

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Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: big4 ()
Date: July 8, 2014 16:07

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matxil
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but none of that explains "cvnt" over "cut."

What's there to explain? Who's gonna kiss a film-cut? Now, for the other option, especially when you are Mick Jagger and you hardly think of anything else...

Should there really be much doubt that is the real lyric-the other option that is...

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Date: July 8, 2014 16:18

However, a cut of two people kissing, shown in Cannes, would make sense smiling smiley

Let's not forget how they made these lyrics...

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: July 8, 2014 19:36

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liddas
One of my all time favorites! It's perfect. It's a loose, sexy, stomp your feet kind of groove. One could play it for ages.

True gems are: Keith's back up vocals, Keith's guitar work on the intro, Taylor's monster solo (I consider it one of his best on record!).

C
I believe Mick is singing background in a sort of Keith style.

100% Keith

C

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: Gooo ()
Date: July 8, 2014 20:08

Great song

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: DoomandGloom ()
Date: July 8, 2014 20:21

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liddas
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DoomandGloom
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liddas
One of my all time favorites! It's perfect. It's a loose, sexy, stomp your feet kind of groove. One could play it for ages.

True gems are: Keith's back up vocals, Keith's guitar work on the intro, Taylor's monster solo (I consider it one of his best on record!).

C
I believe Mick is singing background in a sort of Keith style.

100% Keith

C
u sure???

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Date: July 8, 2014 20:32

Oops! Deleted. Remembered incorrectly. grinning smiley



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Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: runaway ()
Date: July 8, 2014 20:59

A fine track from one of my favorite double-vinyls-Exile.
I've just seen 5 of the musicians on this track live at Werchter 2014thumbs up

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: July 8, 2014 21:25

On any given day, has to be one of my favorite tracks on Exile. Even if you don't like anything else about it, the vocals make this one a winner.

As for the much debated lyric, it was prominently displayed on a sheet of paper in the Stones in Exile documentary. Mick was heavily involved in that film so if the word was anything other than...ahem, I am sure he would have made sure it was written that way.

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Date: July 8, 2014 21:28

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DoomandGloom
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liddas
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DoomandGloom
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liddas
One of my all time favorites! It's perfect. It's a loose, sexy, stomp your feet kind of groove. One could play it for ages.

True gems are: Keith's back up vocals, Keith's guitar work on the intro, Taylor's monster solo (I consider it one of his best on record!).

C
I believe Mick is singing background in a sort of Keith style.

100% Keith

C
u sure???

Listen to Happy, then Casino Boogie.

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: stupidguy2 ()
Date: July 8, 2014 21:51

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The Mez
I think Mick just can't stand or get over the fans & critics love of Exile as it's so "un-Mickish" and Keith's baby.. MEZ
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Mick dismissed Exile for years. Who knows why? But when they re-released it, Mick took on a totally different attitude. He finally embraced it. And without Jagger, the album would be a great jam, but lack depth.
Even Keith busts that mythology, saying that Mick was heavily involved.
Just because Mick didn't shoot up with Keith and Anita all day and night, doesn't mean he wasn't present.

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: July 9, 2014 01:24

As for the much debated lyric, it was prominently displayed on a sheet of paper in the Stones in Exile documentary. .... Exactly




Still from Stones In Exile .........................



ROCKMAN

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: big4 ()
Date: July 9, 2014 04:16

It's lesser known songs like this and Turd which really contribute to making Exile such a special album. The Stones blur the line between country, rock, blues and r&b on Casino Boogie in way that they almost create a whole different genre of music. Bands like Pavement made a career out of mining the slacker-stoner tossed off vibe of this gem.

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: The Mez ()
Date: July 9, 2014 04:24

I understand Mick was heavily involved in Exile "stupidguy2". I was referencing the fact that his radar often seemed off regarding the fans & critics praise & love of the album. The style of the album is not in his "wheelhouse". He controlled everything much more thereafter & personally I think Mick thinks more of songs on IORR, B&B, Emotional Rescue Steel Wheels, etc etc. and I think has been befuddled by Exile's place in music lore & equally befuddled by lack of critical acclaim of much of catalogue post exile (save for Some Girls & Tattto You) Of course, who knows for sure, it's all opinion. Personally I love most of the catalogue, R&B, Brain period, cloassic period, 70's Jagger led direction & actaully love lots of Post Tattoo even. Jagger is #1 frontman & I am a huge fan of his with much respect, but I think the direction & his inclinations of what people wanted has been a bit off post 81. Peace MEZ



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Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: July 9, 2014 05:05

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big4
It's lesser known songs like this and Turd which really contribute to making Exile such a special album. The Stones blur the line between country, rock, blues and r&b on Casino Boogie in way that they almost create a whole different genre of music. Bands like Pavement made a career out of mining the slacker-stoner tossed off vibe of this gem.

What people who don't get "Exile" (or - horrors - think it should have been compressed into a single LP) don't realize is that it's the "small" songs like Casino and Torn & Frayed that make such a great vibe, and the presence of blockbuster "hits" is besides the point. It's a coherent, dense, and deep artistic statement, like The Beatles' White Album.

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Date: July 9, 2014 06:40

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71Tele
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big4
It's lesser known songs like this and Turd which really contribute to making Exile such a special album. The Stones blur the line between country, rock, blues and r&b on Casino Boogie in way that they almost create a whole different genre of music. Bands like Pavement made a career out of mining the slacker-stoner tossed off vibe of this gem.

What people who don't get "Exile" (or - horrors - think it should have been compressed into a single LP) don't realize is that it's the "small" songs like Casino and Torn & Frayed that make such a great vibe, and the presence of blockbuster "hits" is besides the point. It's a coherent, dense, and deep artistic statement, like The Beatles' White Album.

It is indeed! Though I do think it's quite a bit more tight than the White Album--one of the most concise doubles ever, along with Electric Ladyland IMHO. The White Album, with 30 songs and every side almost 25 minutes long, is sprawling by comparison.

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: July 9, 2014 07:49

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CanYouHearTheMusic
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71Tele
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big4
It's lesser known songs like this and Turd which really contribute to making Exile such a special album. The Stones blur the line between country, rock, blues and r&b on Casino Boogie in way that they almost create a whole different genre of music. Bands like Pavement made a career out of mining the slacker-stoner tossed off vibe of this gem.

What people who don't get "Exile" (or - horrors - think it should have been compressed into a single LP) don't realize is that it's the "small" songs like Casino and Torn & Frayed that make such a great vibe, and the presence of blockbuster "hits" is besides the point. It's a coherent, dense, and deep artistic statement, like The Beatles' White Album.

It is indeed! Though I do think it's quite a bit more tight than the White Album--one of the most concise doubles ever, along with Electric Ladyland IMHO. The White Album, with 30 songs and every side almost 25 minutes long, is sprawling by comparison.

Agree. Analogy applies in the sense that there were few hits and many songs, and that fans are divided between those who think the albums should have been compressed and those (like me) who love tham exactly as they are. White Album is stylistically more diverse, and arguably less cohesive than Exile.

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Date: July 9, 2014 13:06

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Rockman
As for the much debated lyric, it was prominently displayed on a sheet of paper in the Stones in Exile documentary. .... Exactly




Still from Stones In Exile .........................



Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Date: July 9, 2014 14:15

But is that "n" in cvnt a smiley, Rockman? ? winking smiley

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: Gooo ()
Date: July 9, 2014 19:36

Where are the out takes of this song?.... Can't believe we got plunder my soul instead...uuugh

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: July 9, 2014 22:52

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DandelionPowderman
But is that "n" in cvnt a smiley, Rockman? ? winking smiley

You sure looked at that closely DP, didn't you? grinning smiley

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Date: July 10, 2014 00:22

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latebloomer
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DandelionPowderman
But is that "n" in cvnt a smiley, Rockman? ? winking smiley

You sure looked at that closely DP, didn't you? grinning smiley

The eyes were starring at me first grinning smiley

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: July 10, 2014 00:27

.... they all look like they're smiling' don't they Dandelion ???? ...hAAA



ROCKMAN

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Date: July 10, 2014 00:53

LOL!

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: DoomandGloom ()
Date: July 10, 2014 04:11

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Rockman
.... they all look like they're smiling' don't they Dandelion ???? ...hAAA

Re: Track Talk: Casino Boogie
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: July 10, 2014 08:44

What is this talking about a word where people coming in and out...

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