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Title5Take1
It's funny how iconic songs can get trashed more on fan forums than anywhere. I've never seen more venom against HELLO, GOODBYE than on Beatles-fan forums.
Personally, I love and worship both START ME UP and HELLO, GOODBYE.
Does that somehow mean I'm, uh, not a Stones or Beatles fan.......?
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Title5Take1
It's funny how iconic songs can get trashed more on fan forums than anywhere. I've never seen more venom against HELLO, GOODBYE than on Beatles-fan forums.
Personally, I love and worship both START ME UP and HELLO, GOODBYE.
Does that somehow mean I'm, uh, not a Stones or Beatles fan.......?
Well, if you love Hello, Goodbye I'd be the first to suggest you ain't a Beatles fan.
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Turner68
Our esteemed colleague must mean that he loves the 45 RPM "hello goodbye" which of course has "I am the Walrus" on the B-side, which is a masterpiece and loved by every Beatles fan. Let's give the man a little credit.
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Title5Take1
I'm reminded of George Orwell's essay on Tolstoy's famous dislike of Shakespeare. Orwell pointed out that not only did Tostoy hate Shakespeare he wanted to make everybody else hate Shakespeare too.
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Naturalust
I am too but I can articulate why I can't stand SMU. The music and the lyrics. For me they are both formulatic, cliche record company rock. It doesn't really matter that the they were following their own formula somewhat, it almost comes off as a parody of Stones music to me. All these elements put together to craft this shiny package without any emotion or soul, a mere shadow of the stuff they did when those 2 elements were present and their style was raw and natural. Basically it sounds like something a cruise ship cover band would do to try to imitate the Stones. Powdered coffee creamer to the 1/2 and 1/2 they once delivered, imitation rock, artificial in nature. I know it's only rock and roll but I don't have to like it all and this one is near the top of my bummer list, in no small part because I've had to listen to it far too many times.
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DandelionPowderman
The sound of that track alone is enough to make it a masterpiece. That goes for Mick's vocals as well - perhaps his best singing ever.
That said, the song isn't anything special songwriting-wise, imo.
It's the sound and the effect the track has on us. That's the genius-part.
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GasLightStreet
Mick's vocals on SMU are excellent.
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Redhotcarpet
It's not my favourite but the studio version is well produced. Hate the 80s lyrics and attitude though. The end of the dark era. I kinda like it and kinda hate it.
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Redhotcarpet
It's not my favourite but the studio version is well produced. Hate the 80s lyrics and attitude though. The end of the dark era. I kinda like it and kinda hate it.
Well balanced opinion indeed.
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Redhotcarpet
It's not my favourite but the studio version is well produced. Hate the 80s lyrics and attitude though. The end of the dark era. I kinda like it and kinda hate it.
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GasLightStreet
Mick's vocals on SMU are excellent.
yes, even if you happen to dislike the song, the vocals on it are perfect.
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kovach
Wow, never put "Start Me Up" and "Thunder Island" together, but much like the discussion of The Cult's "Love Removal Machine", it certainly has the same rhythm.
Had never heard of that song before but there's certainly something of SMU in there...but according to [en.wikipedia.org] "The song reached #9 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 1978" so I can't se how it could have inspired SMU in 1975 or 1977 ? Odd...As a side not I wonder if the 1975 version of SMU will ever leak, would be interesting to hear how "reggae" it really was, "Never Stop" is certainly not very "reggae" ;-)
I don't think Keith's hesitation was because he felt that the song might have inspired him but rather that they were similar enough to not want to release them close together
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DandelionPowderman
No, I really mean it. It's perfect, like much of what he did on TY is.
Good days in that french warehouse indeed!