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Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: April 19, 2009 05:57

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SwayStones

But I am getting confused :


Open G:
According to your web link,it says
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If you were a rock star ,the only way to travel was in a customized Boeing 720 called the Starship one .
The Rolling Stones chartered ONE for their 1972 tour

I get loosed ....this is a very interesting thread !
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Well well well - you should read on, and not take it out of context.
I'll try to highlight what's needed to understand.

"When the road manager extraordinaire Richard Cole was assigned the task of finding a plane ostentatious enough to transport Led Zeppelin during the band's world-conquering 1973 tour, the choice was as easy as a groupie: in the mid-70's, if you were a rock star, or just part of the bell-bottomed entourage, the only way to travel was in a customized Boeing 720B called the Starship 1."

But hey, the Stones were already flying in '72! - ok, with old fashioned propellers, but still.
Led Zep was flying with a jet a year later in '73 i.e. the Starship 1.

and the same meaning is in this sentence:

"There had been, of course, other private planes. The Rolling Stones chartered one for their 1972 tour, inviting Truman Capote and Lee Radziwill to tag along. And much has been made of the plush jets the wrinkly rockers leased for their recent world tour. But they are crop dusters compared to the Starship"

Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: vox12string ()
Date: April 19, 2009 08:20

To save even further costs, the plane won't land & the Stones will utilise the services of Parachute Women to reach the ground


Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: boogie69 ()
Date: April 19, 2009 09:04

I can't believe the Stones flew in those puddle jumpers.

Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: Steven ()
Date: April 19, 2009 13:34

So how high could they get in that old plane?

Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: CharliMoon ()
Date: April 19, 2009 13:59

This ia a darn interesting thread!! Thanks for posting all those pics and info. I never new they used 3 different planes during the 70s.

Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: UrbanSteel ()
Date: April 19, 2009 14:39

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-09-12 13:54 by UrbanSteel.

Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: latvianinexile ()
Date: April 19, 2009 18:08

For parts of the B2B and Licks tours the Stones used this VIP equipped B757-200:



It has a dining and lounge area in the forward cabin and business class seats in the aft cabin. It has been refitted since the B2B tour. Total capacity is 49 passengers. Typical capacity for this type in commercial airlines would be 200-220.

Dining table:

B757-200
Posted by: latvianinexile ()
Date: April 20, 2009 00:21


2003
Posted by: latvianinexile ()
Date: April 20, 2009 00:41

Downsized to a BAe 146 in 2003


2007
Posted by: latvianinexile ()
Date: April 20, 2009 00:43

And a MD 83 in 2007


Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: April 20, 2009 15:52

Quote
open-g
Quote
SwayStones

But I am getting confused :


Open G:
According to your web link,it says
Quote

If you were a rock star ,the only way to travel was in a customized Boeing 720 called the Starship one .
The Rolling Stones chartered ONE for their 1972 tour

I get loosed ....this is a very interesting thread !
[/URL]

Well well well - you should read on, and not take it out of context.
I'll try to highlight what's needed to understand.

"When the road manager extraordinaire Richard Cole was assigned the task of finding a plane ostentatious enough to transport Led Zeppelin during the band's world-conquering 1973 tour, the choice was as easy as a groupie: in the mid-70's, if you were a rock star, or just part of the bell-bottomed entourage, the only way to travel was in a customized Boeing 720B called the Starship 1."

But hey, the Stones were already flying in '72! - ok, with old fashioned propellers, but still.
Led Zep was flying with a jet a year later in '73 i.e. the Starship 1.

and the same meaning is in this sentence:

"There had been, of course, other private planes. The Rolling Stones chartered one for their 1972 tour, inviting Truman Capote and Lee Radziwill to tag along. And much has been made of the plush jets the wrinkly rockers leased for their recent world tour. But they are crop dusters compared to the Starship"

Thanks OpenG to make it clearer .My english doesn't help !winking smiley

Whaouhh,I love the pics of the B2B tour plane you've posted Latvianinexile !!



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-04-20 15:57 by SwayStones.

Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: April 20, 2009 15:55





Who could make these pictures bigger for me please ? I can't ....



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-04-20 15:57 by SwayStones.

Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: April 20, 2009 16:17

Somemore informations :

Blue Line McDonnell Douglas MD-83 (credits Patrice TAPPA )

The biggest plane which I ever saw in Bron (airport near Lyon ,5 minutes from my home ,for private planes )

. Landing runway 16 from Paris CDG with The Rolling Stones and a part of their technical staff on board ! Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts and Ron Wood give a concert to Lyons this evening ,2007 June the 18 th....





2007 ,August the 2d:
Transporting Rolling Stones to their next concert in Gothenburg, Sweden. Lined up on runway 22R. Note the missing tail logo.





I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

Back to 1975
Posted by: latvianinexile ()
Date: April 20, 2009 16:39

Inside the Starship


Photo: Christopher Simon Sykes

Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: Papo ()
Date: April 20, 2009 16:40

The two planes at the beginning of the thread are two different ones, if you compare the paintig etc...

Transavia Holland, Hannover 1982
Posted by: latvianinexile ()
Date: April 20, 2009 16:53

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Papo
The two planes at the beginning of the thread are two different ones, if you compare the paintig etc...

Papo, it is explained in the thread.

Look at theses pics:
[www.rainer-kuschnierzik.de]

Incl. young JC and Bill Graham (not the author).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-04-20 16:54 by latvianinexile.

Re: Transavia Holland, Hannover 1982
Posted by: Papo ()
Date: April 20, 2009 18:52

Quote
latvianinexile
Quote
Papo
The two planes at the beginning of the thread are two different ones, if you compare the paintig etc...

Papo, it is explained in the thread.

Look at theses pics:
[www.rainer-kuschnierzik.de]

Incl. young JC and Bill Graham (not the author).

ooops, stupid me! Sorry!

Re: Transavia Holland, Hannover 1982
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: April 20, 2009 19:13

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latvianinexile
[.Look at theses pics:
[www.rainer-kuschnierzik.de]

Incl. young JC and Bill Graham (not the author).


I never saw the pictures from your site ,very interesting ,thanks !



From CS Blues :







And here ,where is the tongue ???
Half tongue should I say ...sad smiley





I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

Keith in Brno
Posted by: latvianinexile ()
Date: April 20, 2009 20:12

Here is one of Keith in the Blue Line MD 83 after the Brno concert. He is wearing the scarf (or blanket?) that, I think, was thrown to him while on stage.




Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: April 21, 2009 08:35


Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: MKjan ()
Date: April 21, 2009 08:48

By the looks of this, Bill Wyman will not be rejoining the Stones for a tour.

Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: April 21, 2009 10:50

When the Rolling Stones pop group toured Australia and New Zealand in 1973, their sound equipment travelled in L749 Constellation N7777G (msn 2553) of Air Cargo International Inc. of Houston and Miami. During a stopover in Brisbane it was reported that Customs had located a small quantity of "a grass-like substance" on the aeroplane. Given that the aeroplane had been used previously to transport livestock, this may not have been so surprising! After the Rolling Stones tour, the aeroplane became derelict in Dublin. Although there were plans to make the Connie airworthy for appearances on the European airshow circuit (for which purposes the aeroplane was to be registered G-CONI) this never eventuated and the Connie was acquired by the Science Museum who painted the aircraft in TWA colours as N7777G. This is surprising as the aeroplane never served TWA, having been delivered to KLM as PH-TET. The Connie is stored at the Science Museum facility at Wroughton in the U.K.







I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

ordinary passenger
Posted by: latvianinexile ()
Date: April 21, 2009 17:19

When travelling like we do:


Rolling Stones No. 1
Posted by: latvianinexile ()
Date: April 21, 2009 17:58

Here is one for the next tour:


Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: April 21, 2009 18:56



2179 Tour Ship

Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: April 21, 2009 19:19

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batcave
It's one thing to lease a plane for a tour, it's another to BUY your own jet as Elvis did in 1975.

The Lisa Marie

see ELVIS had very good taste!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: latvianinexile ()
Date: April 21, 2009 20:53

Inside the Lockheed L-188 Electra 1972. From Robert Frank's movie:


Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: April 21, 2009 23:52


Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: April 21, 2009 23:59

Interesting thread !
Also nice to see that SwayStones avatar is copied from my photobucket...an imageupload I took from some bootlegscan
There's a real cool one on the back of "Two Great ALbums Cheap" (VGP) by the way

Re: 72-tour airplane - picture
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: April 22, 2009 01:27

I was on both the 72 plane and the Starship.
Starship was the most "comfy," more like a couple of lounges with nice individual chairs and loveseats, also a piano.

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