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living is a harder love
Posted by: tattoome ()
Date: March 25, 2009 16:53

living is a harder love will be a good rocksong for the next tour.
I´m sure the stones will never play this song on tour, it´s not official realised

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: March 25, 2009 16:58

What came first - the chicken or the egg?
The chicken can be the only logical answer, but likely not identical to our current understanding of the creature.

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: March 25, 2009 17:16

Its called Living In The Heart Of Love.

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: tattoome ()
Date: March 25, 2009 17:26

sorry or my bad english !

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: March 25, 2009 17:30

No need to apologise. Its an easy mistake to make - especially as bootleggers have often given it the same wrong title based on mis-hearing the lyrics. They often do the same with Gangster's Moll (mistitled as Gangster's Maul) and Criss Cross Mind (misheard as Criss Cross Man), giving them titles which dont make grammatic sense.

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: March 25, 2009 17:34

I've heard it as "Living is the Heart of Love," but that's only my ears.

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: March 25, 2009 20:46

Save Me is the most commonly used "other" title for Criss Cross Mind.

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: Cafaro ()
Date: March 25, 2009 20:47

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Rocky Dijon
I've heard it as "Living is the Heart of Love," but that's only my ears.

When you listen to the song through earphones he says it in a number of different ways....always "Heart of Love" though.

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: mickschix ()
Date: March 25, 2009 23:21

What bootleg is this song on, Gazza? Is it available anywhere else? I must admit that I am not familiar with this song.

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: March 25, 2009 23:34

What bootleg is this song on





ROCKMAN

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: March 26, 2009 00:03

debra, its also on Mickboys "Short and Curlies"(Its Only R n R By The Balls) in pretty decent quality. I think you can still d/l it here if you do a search.(and if the link isnt dead!)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2009-03-26 00:08 by scottkeef.

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: Deluxtone ()
Date: March 26, 2009 00:14

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Gazza
No need to apologise. Its an easy mistake to make - especially as bootleggers have often given it the same wrong title based on mis-hearing the lyrics. They often do the same with Gangster's Moll (mistitled as Gangster's Maul) and Criss Cross Mind (misheard as Criss Cross Man), giving them titles which dont make grammatic sense.

To me Criss Cross Man makes as much 'grammatical sense' as Criss Cross Mind.
I'd always thought it was the former - cos that's what my boot (Goat's Head Reheated) said - and i assumed the criss-cross bit meant 'sexually confused' - recorded at the height of the Glam era. Made sense to me!

What is a Gangster's Moll? A girl nick-named Moll who 'belongs' to a Gangster?

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: March 26, 2009 00:18

Gangster's Moll ......... Gangster's female companion/girlfriend



ROCKMAN

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: March 26, 2009 00:28

don't forget FIJI GIN! not sure what botanicals go into that....

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: HelterSkelter ()
Date: March 26, 2009 00:44

Great song, strange title....

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: Cafaro ()
Date: March 26, 2009 01:01

Here is the "long version"--Living in the Heart of Love.... from Place Pigale 1
[www.sendspace.com]

and
the "short version" different mix, title is "living in the harder world"
[www.sendspace.com]

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: mickschix ()
Date: March 26, 2009 06:54

Thanks guys!winking smiley

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: March 26, 2009 06:55

Aaaawww shucks it was nuffin' Debra....



ROCKMAN

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: Bashlets ()
Date: March 26, 2009 07:16

I'd glady be happy if they put out another Tattoo YOu part 2 with shit like Living in the heart of love. Great track. We may have known it for years, but it would be new to the masses.

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: March 26, 2009 18:48

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Deluxtone
Quote
Gazza
No need to apologise. Its an easy mistake to make - especially as bootleggers have often given it the same wrong title based on mis-hearing the lyrics. They often do the same with Gangster's Moll (mistitled as Gangster's Maul) and Criss Cross Mind (misheard as Criss Cross Man), giving them titles which dont make grammatic sense.

To me Criss Cross Man makes as much 'grammatical sense' as Criss Cross Mind.
I'd always thought it was the former - cos that's what my boot (Goat's Head Reheated) said - and i assumed the criss-cross bit meant 'sexually confused' - recorded at the height of the Glam era. Made sense to me!

It would make as much sense but the line Mick is singing is (to my ears, anyway) "givin' me a criss cross mind", so "givin' me a criss cross man" makes no sense.

The term 'criss cross' relates to the 'perfect murder' plot as seen in the film "Strangers On a Train". Danny De Vito and Billy Crystal's characters in the comedy film "Throw Monna From the Train" planned to use the plot from that movie for their own purposes, which is basically :

In the opening scenes, Guy Haines chances to meet the charming, rich, clever, but psychopathic Bruno Anthony (Robert Walker) on a train. Bruno tells Guy his "amusing" idea about how to commit the perfect murder: two people who hardly know one another at all "exchange" murders; that way, neither one would have a motive, and each could arrange to have a perfect alibi for the time when the murder was committed. It would be, as Bruno describes his plan to Guy, "crisscross".

Bruno goes on to explain that for example, he, Bruno, could kill Guy's wife Miriam, and in exchange, Guy could kill Bruno's unpleasantly authoritarian father, and then both of them would be free to do whatever they wanted.


The lyrics of "Criss Cross Mind" dont exactly have much depth to them, but I assume the gist of it is that the woman in the song is provoking urges in the writer which are giving him a 'criss cross mind' akin to that in the above movie plot

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: Deluxtone ()
Date: March 26, 2009 19:12

Interesting Gazza. I have seen that film. Isn't it later than 1972? Not sure.

I thought he was singing (something like) 'baby, I'm your criss cross man'

I'll have to listen again.

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: March 26, 2009 22:50

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Deluxtone
Interesting Gazza. I have seen that film. Isn't it later than 1972? Not sure.

"Strangers On a Train" ? No...it was released in 1950. Thats the plot I quoted above.

Presume you meant "Throw Momma From the Train", which was obviously more recent - 1987.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-03-26 22:51 by Gazza.

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: cc ()
Date: March 27, 2009 00:03

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Gazza

The lyrics of "Criss Cross Mind" dont exactly have much depth to them, but I assume the gist of it is that the woman in the song is provoking urges in the writer which are giving him a 'criss cross mind' akin to that in the above movie plot

interesting... it gives me ideas more about racial crossing, a la "Brown Sugar." He mentions getting a blood transfusion and needing to "straighten out," which make me think of kinky hair. But also keith's mythical blood changing, which I think was supposed to have happened around this time. Granted, it can be so suggestive only because the lyric is so spare!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-03-30 18:33 by cc.

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: Cafaro ()
Date: March 27, 2009 00:13

Yeah! And "Woman run around with a razor....she wanna use it every night"

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: cc ()
Date: March 30, 2009 18:35

oh, that's good--I had heard it as "run around in the rain," but "razor" is better! though it doesn't quite fit my race-infection theme...

Re: living is a harder love
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: March 30, 2009 18:56

How bout the lines: Lip to lip, tougue to tougue, thigh to thigh, ring to ring(use your imagination what THAT one means!) I might not have em in the exact order but you get the idea.



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