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What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: Shott ()
Date: January 28, 2009 17:04

Always hear about overdubbing in production but anyone know what on ya-ya's was not actually played at MSG? Just hope the guitar parts on Love in Vain were "live."

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: January 28, 2009 17:08

Ain't it mostly just all of the vocals!?

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: January 28, 2009 17:09

i think there's a website that has this chronicled in meticulous detail - but the long and short of it is that it's mick and keith vocals on a few of the songs....

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: UrbanSteel ()
Date: January 28, 2009 17:10

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-09-14 15:04 by UrbanSteel.

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: jigsawp ()
Date: January 28, 2009 17:18

But remember - "Love on vain" from "Ya Ya's" is from the Baltimore show!

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Date: January 28, 2009 18:15

Man I love that artwork!!

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: Loudei ()
Date: January 28, 2009 21:04


Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: January 28, 2009 22:58

All the comments on the cd releases are word for word the same as the review in the old SFJ magazine. Any relationship there?

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: Loudei ()
Date: January 29, 2009 00:00

Se..seems...se..seems to be ready are you ready?: (November 28, 1969 1st)

Acetate Starts Here in the Right Channel

We're sorry for the delay

+ Is everybody ready... for the next band

+ We'll they've done the West Coast and they've done all sorts of other places in America and now they're in New York: (November 27, 1969)

+ For the next band..stand-up and sound as if you are ready, come on..Let's really hear it for the next band

- For the first time in three years..The Rolling Stones..The Rolling Stones: (November 27, 1969)

- Sit tall and have a fantastic time

The greatest rock 'n roll band in the world: (November 28, 1969 1st show)

The Rolling Stones..The Rolling Stones

Left Channel:

These lines are missing from the acetate:

+ Se..seems...se..seems to be ready are you ready?:

+ Everybody ready

For the next band...

The Acetate comes in at this point in the Left Channel

- Well the biggest band to visit New York

- We'll they've done the West Coast and they've done all sorts of other places in America and now they're in New York: (November 27, 1969)

- The greatest rock 'n roll band in the world: (November 28, 1969 1st show)

* For the first time in three years: (November 27, 1969 or November 28, 1969 1st show)

* Welcome the Rolling Stones

The Rolling Stones...The Rolling Stones: (November 27, 1969)

1. Jumpin' Jack Flash

All "Ya-Ya's" vocal overdubs present in music that was recorded live at MSG on November 27, 1969.

- Instrumental Break #1

At 1:23 a Keith Richards solo begins and continues until Jagger starts Line 9 of the song!

- Instrumental Break #2

At 2:39 a Keith Richards solo begins and continues until the final rhythm notes are played!

"Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle

Richards - Rhythm guitar: Right channel

Richards - Backing vocal on the chorus: Right channel

Mick Taylor - "Doubled" counter rhythms: Left channel

Wyman - Bass: Middle right

Watts - Drums: Middle, cymbals middle right channel

"Apple Acetate" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle

Richards - Rhythm: Middle right

Richards - Backing vocal is mixed down to nearly inaudible

Mick Taylor - Mixed on top of Richards: Middle right

Wyman - Bass: Middle right

Watts - Drums: Middle, cymbals middle right channel

Richards' guitar was overdubbed at a later date in time as evidenced by the lack of these solos on the audience source recording. It was erased from the track before the release of the record. This is the first indication of the possibility of an instrumental overdub.

2. Carol

1.) Oh yeah thank you kindly

2.) I think I busted a button on my trousers hope they don't fall down

3.) It's that jumping around man I have to do it up again...whew

4.) You don't want my trousers to fall down now do you?

The spoken words on GYYYO are from MSG 11/27/69 with line 3 edited out.

These lines are not present on the acetate at this point. No words are spoken between JJF and Carol.

This source of Carol is MSG 11/28/69 1st show as is GYYYO with a live vocal (not overdubbed). The mixes vary:

"Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle

Richards - Rhythm/lead guitar: Right channel

Mick Taylor - Subtle counter rhythms: Left channel

Ian Stewart - Piano: Middle left channel

Wyman - Bass: Middle right

Watts - Drums: Middle, cymbals middle right channel

"Apple Acetate" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle left

Richards - Rhythm/lead guitar: Middle left channel

Mick Taylor - Not present!

Ian Stewart - Piano: Middle right channel

Wyman - Bass: Middle right and somewhat louder in the mix

Watts - Drums: Middle, cymbals middle right channel

A clapping track is mixed in the right channel in the closing seconds of the song

Taylor's guitar is absent from the track. Either mixed down, left off the track, or possibly overdubbed at a later date. Note that the rhythm section placement was not altered between the two sources.

3. Stray Cat Blues

The spoken words "Thank you" spliced between Carol and Stray Cat Blues on GYYYO are from MSG 11/27/69 just before Honky Tonk Women. This particular "Thank you" is distinguishable by it's nasal and accentuated intonation by Jagger.

These words are not present on the acetate. No words are spoken between Carol and Stray Cat Blues.

The acetate like GYYYO uses the musical source from Baltimore 11/26/69, with an overdubbed vocal.

"Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle

Richards - Rhythm/lead guitar: Right channel

Mick Taylor - Counter rhythms and stinging chorus lead lines: Left channel

Wyman - Bass: Middle

Watts - Drums & cymbals: Middle

"Apple Acetate" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle right.

The vocal is increasingly louder in the mix as the song goes on.

Richards - Rhythm/lead guitar: Middle left channel & pans to "hard" left at 2:42

Mick Taylor - Middle right & pans to "hard" right at 2:09 for the solo

Wyman - Bass: Middle

Watts - Drums & cymbals: Middle

Well, maybe no revelations on this one except that the guitar channels are switched and the there is experimenting going on with the mix. The track ends-up as clear sounding wide guitar mix.

4. Love In Vain

The "well all right" between Stray Cat Blues and Love In Vain on GYYYO is a splice. The "well all rights" usually came before Honky Tonk Women, but this one is not the same as those that precede HTW (side 2) on "Ya-Ya's" from 11/28/69 1st show. The spoken "well all right" is probably from 11/28/69 2nd show. These words are also present on the acetate. There are additional spoken words from Jagger that are the result of a rough splice:

The spoken words before Love In Vain, Baltimore, 11/26/69:

1.) Thank You

2.) We're gonna do a . . .

3.) We're gonna do a blues

4.) For you now 'cause

5.) We're gonna slow it down for you

6.) Because you think . . .

7.) I think you like it, like that

8.) For a little while

9.) We're gonna do Love In Vain ...

There is a faint trace of line #9 present on the acetate!

Lines 1 through 8 are edited out. Jagger's way of saying that he wasn't too happy with the crowd reception, alluding that they may prefer the more subdued blues of Robert Johnson. Remember, that there were screaming girls filling the audience on the prior tour (1966) of the States. The crowd was sitting down and listening to the music this time around . . . and did they have something to listen to.

The acetate like GYYYO uses the Love In Vain source from Baltimore 11/26/69. There are no detectable overdubs on this one.

"Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle

Richards - Rhythm guitar: Right channel

Mick Taylor - Taylor slide begins at 1:20: Left channel

Wyman - Bass: Middle right

Watts - Drums at 1:14: Middle

"Apple Acetate" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle right.

Richards - Rhythm guitar: Left channel

Mick Taylor - Right channel

Wyman - Bass: Middle

Watts - Drums: Middle

The guitar channels are switched, which is also consistent with the crystal clear outtake version found on the "A Shot of Salvation: Old Masters 2" CD on Scorpio.

5. Midnight Rambler

On GYYYO the spoken words between Love In Vain and Midnight Rambler are from MSG 11/28/69 2nd show as follows:

1.) Thank You

2.) Ah well

3.) We're gonna do a new one for you

4.) Which you haven't received yet . . . feedback (Marker)

5.) All right, and... it's called Midnight Rambler

6.) Ooh ya, well I'm a talkin' 'bout the Midnight Rambler

7.) Everybody got to go

Lines 1 through 4 have been edited out of GYYYO.

Note: The studio version of MR from "Let It Bleed" was released in the US on December 5, 1969, so songs from this LP were completely unknown to those who had not attended previous shows. Even Honky Tonk Women released on July 3, 1969 would be a completely different version on the album. They basically toured on the strength of this classic single, and put it all on the line by playing "unreleased" songs for audiences that were carefully listening to the music. For a one week period the 1997 leg of the "Bridges To Babylon Tour" also previewed (to a lessor extent) previously unheard songs. On another historical note, Brown Sugar was first played at Altamont and regularly on the 1970 European Tour prior to it's 1971 release.

There are additional spoken words from Jagger spliced into the acetate track:

Fade-in: Harp tease

Ah well

We're gonna do a new one for you

Which we hope you can dig it . . . feedback (Marker)

All right, and... it's called Midnight Rambler

The harp intro. is musically the same as MSG 11/28/69 2nd show, but there is an edit in the spoken words by Jagger in Line 4. "Which you haven't received yet" is replaced with "Which we hope you can dig it". The original spoken words would have been dated by a reference to "Let It Bleed" not being released by the time "Ya-Ya's" was issued nearly a year later. The question is; where did these words come from? Jagger spoke these words at MSG Nov. 27, 1969:

"We're gonna do a new one for you"

"Which we hope you dig it"

Close, but not the same; "can" is left out of this line.

Baltimore Nov. 26, Boston Nov. 29, Palm Beach Nov. 30, and Altamont Dec. 6th also checked, but none of these introductions come close. This line may have been spliced in from words spoken on Nov. 28 1st show by process of elimination, or by an overdub placed on the vocal track.

Add:

Ooh ya, well I'm a talkin' 'bout the Midnight Rambler

Everybody got to go

From MSG 11/28/69 2nd show (as on GYYYO)

The acetate like GYYYO uses the source from MSG November 28, 1969 2nd show. There are no detectable overdubs!

"Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal & harp: Middle

Richards - Rhythm guitar: Right channel

Mick Taylor - Lead and rhythm tapestry: Left channel

Wyman - Bass: Middle right

Watts - Drums: Middle

"Apple Acetate" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle left.

Richards - Rhythm guitar: Right channel

Mick Taylor - Lead and rhythm: Left channel

Wyman - Bass: Middle

Watts - Drums: Middle

The guitar channels are not switched this time. The main differences are the added intro. words from Nov. 28, and edit to line 4 of the spoken words.

6. Live With Me

The in-between words spoken before Live With Me on "Ya-Ya's" are as follows:

Well all right

You having a good time?

These spoken words are possibly MSG 11/28/69 2nd show.

There are no words spoken by Jagger prior to Live With Me on the acetate. Only an audience fade-in on side two of the disc.

The acetate like GYYYO uses the instrumental tracks from 11/28/69 2nd, with the vocal overdubbed.

"Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal & harp: Middle

Richards - Lead/rhythm guitar: Right channel

Mick Taylor - Counter rhythms: Left channel

Wyman - Bass: Middle

Watts - Drums: Middle

"Apple Acetate" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle left.

Richards - Lead/rhythm guitar: Right channel (down in the mix except for the solo)

Mick Taylor - Counter rhythms: Left channel

Wyman - Bass: Middle

Watts - Drums: Middle

The acetate mix favors Taylor's guitar in the left channel. Unlike "digitally mastered" CD's the drum sound is clear and resonant.

7. Little Queenie

In between words from Live With Me to Little Queenie on "Ya-Ya's":

"Aw New York City your talkin' a lot...let's have a look at you".

These same lines are found in the opening words by Jagger in the "Gimme Shelter" movie just before Jumpin' Jack Flash. These spoken are from 11/28/69 1st show.

These words also spoken by Jagger prior to Little Queenie on the acetate.

Note: Jagger faintly saying "I love New York" in the first seconds of the song on GYYYO!

The acetate like GYYYO, and a video that circulates of this song are 11/28/69 1st show by process of elimination. There is unique evidence that the vocal on "Ya-Ya's" has been overdubbed. The video "documents" the original vocal from 11/28/69 1st show!

"Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle

Richards - Lead/rhythm guitar: Right channel

Richards - Backing vocal: Right channel

Mick Taylor - Counter rhythm fills: Left channel

Wyman - Bass: Middle

Watts - Drums: Middle

"Apple Acetate" - The Mix:

The clap track overlaps more of the opening bar than on Ya-Ya's

Jagger - Vocal: Middle left. There is a more prominent (studio) reverb present on the vocal.

Richards - Lead/rhythm guitar: Right channel. Slightly lower in the mix.

Richards - Backing vocal overdub at a slightly higher level than on GYYYO

Mick Taylor - Counter rhythm fills: Left channel

Wyman - Bass: Middle

Watts - Drums: Middle

The outro guitar bar is played at a higher level in the mix.

8. Honky Tonk Women

In between words from Little Queenie to Honky Tonk Women on "Ya-Ya's":

1.) Well all right

2.) Well all right

3.) Well all right (Feedback)

4.) Whoo

5.) Well all right

6.) Charlie's good tonight inny he

Lines 5 & 6 can also be heard in the Gimme Shelter movie in the Jagger chatter after Jumpin' Jack Flash. These words probably precede Honky Tonk Women on either 11/28/69 1st or 2nd show.

These words also spoken by Jagger prior to Honky Tonk Women on the acetate.

The acetate like GYYYO is the instrumental track from MSG 11/27/69. The vocal is overdubbed, and the "Paris Verse" replaces the "New York Verse" that was originally recorded live.

"Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle left

Richards - Lead/rhythm guitar: Right channel

Richards - Backing vocal: Middle right

Mick Taylor - Rhythm fills: Left channel

Wyman - Bass: Middle

Watts - Drums: Middle

"Apple Acetate" - The Mix:

There is a start - a stop - and a restart of the opening bar on the acetate

Jagger - Vocal: Middle left.

Richards - Lead/rhythm guitar: Right channel.

Richards - Backing vocal: Middle left

Mick Taylor - Rhythm fills: Left channel. Slightly louder in the mix.

Wyman - Bass: Middle

Watts - Drums: Middle

9. Sympathy for the Devil

We are out of sequence in the track list at this point to make a direct comparison to "Ya-Ya's", but "Ya-Ya's" will be referenced here in order to completely document the differences between the two recordings:

Background words spoken between Midnight Rambler and SFTD on GYYYO:

Woman in the crowd: (left channel)

Keith...Paint It Black..Paint It Black

Jagger off-mic.: (right channel)

"I'm ready"

Woman in the crowd: (left channel)

Paint It Black you Devils...Do Paint It Black

The "woman in the crowd" was in attendance at the MSG 11/28/69 2nd show performance.

These words are not present at this point on the acetate. Reference the opening prior to Jumpin' Jack Flash on the acetate.

Jagger's words from the acetate:

We're gonna do one more and we're gonna go

(The crowd clearly screams "NOOOOO!" in the right channel)

These words precede Street Fighting Man on "Ya-Ya's", and were probably spoken on 11/28/69 1st or 2nd, but are most likely an overdub.

Rough "skip" sounding splice:

I think I busted a button on my trousers hope they don't fall down

You don't want my trousers to fall down now do you?

These edited lines are from MSG 11/27/69, and precede Carol on GYYYO.

The acetate like GYYYO uses the Sympathy for the Devil source from MSG 11/28/69 1st show.

"Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle

Richards - Lead/rhythm guitar: Right channel

Mick Taylor - Lead/rhythm guitar: Left channel

Wyman - Bass: Middle

Watts - Drums: Middle

"Apple Acetate" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle left.

Richards - Lead/rhythm guitar: Middle left

Mick Taylor - Lead/rhythm guitar: Middle right

Wyman - Bass: Middle

Watts - Drums: Middle

"Apple Acetate" - The Verses:

Verse #2 and Chorus #2 are edited out of the acetate!

Verse #2

I stuck around St. Petersburg when I saw it was time for a change

Killed the Czar and his ministers

Anastasia...screamed in vain

I rode a tank in the generals rank

When the Blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank

Aw yeah

Chorus #2

A 'cause I'm...pleased to meet you and I...hope you guess a my name

Aw-oh baby

What's been puzzling you is just the...nature of a my game

Aw baby

Verse #3 and Chorus #3 are edited out of the acetate!

Verse # 3

I watched with glee while your king and queens

Fought for ten dec-ades...a for the gods they made

I shouted out...who killed the Kennedy's

A well a after all...after all, it was...you and me

A why don't...a let me please introduce myself

Why I'm a man of wealth and taste

Yes and I...I laid traps for troubadours

Who get killed before they reach Bombay

Ah

Chorus #3

And I'm a... pleased to meet you baby...hope you guess a my name

Aw yeah

A what's been puzzling you is just the...nature of my game

The missing Verse #4 & Chorus #4 NOT on "Ya-Ya's" ARE present on the acetate!!

_The Lost Verse!_

I wanna tell ya . . .

Just as every cop is a criminal...and all the sinners saints

As heads is tails...just call me Lucifer

I'm in need of...some restraint

So if you meet me...have some courtesy...have some sympathy...have some taste

Use all your well learned politesse...or I'll lay-your soul to waste

Yeah

_The Lost Chorus!_

Pleased to meet you baby...hope you guess a my name

Ahhh...yeah

What's been puzzling you is just the...nature of a my game

* These words have been missing from the commercial release for over 28 YEARS!

At this point: Instrumental Break #1 and Outro verses:

"Awwoooowhooooo"

Instrumental Break #1: Keith Richards burns it up with his soulful guitar solo.

"Oh yeah" (faint) during the solo (3:11)

"Yeah" during the solo (3:16)

(3:19) "Slow it down, slow it down, slow it down, slow it down, slow it down...whoo...yeah" (very faint during the solo - also present on "Ya-Ya's")

Ohh Hooo

Aw yeah

Oh yeah, oohh come on down

Tell me baby...a what my name

Tell me sweety...a what my name

Oh yeah, oh yeah, ohh whoo

Jagger's vocal is mixed down to barely audible at this point, and for the remainder of the song, leaving the focus of the listening on Mick Taylor's magnificent guitar playing:

Ohh whoo, ohh whoo, yeah

Awww-oh

I think I'm gonna get on down, aahh

Come on down, shewoo, come on down boy

Oh come on down, oh come on down, come on down

Aww-ooh, yeah, I'm gonna throw you down,

Keith: "Hey" is missing from the acetate

Instrumental Break #2: Mick Taylor guitar solo (left) channel.

"Awwyeah" during the solo (5:24)

Whoo... (5:35)

Awwwohh

Now down the song, I get on down, I get on down, give it to 'em

Crowd track comes-up in the mix in the right channel during the closing seconds of the song.

If you splice in Verse #4 onward your GYYYO CD/LP, you will have the entire song as it was played on November 28, 1969 1st Show!

10. Street Fighting Man

The spoken words that precede SFM on the acetate are taken from the Jagger chatter between Sympathy for the Devil and Live With Me on "Ya-Ya's":

Well all right

You having a good time?

These spoken words are from 11/28/69 1st or 2nd.

The acetate like GYYYO uses the Street Fighting Man source from MSG 11/28/69 1st show with an overdubbed vocal. The "A Shot of Salvation" CD on Scorpio contains the original vocal take (Note: Minus Richards back-up vocals).

"Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle right

Richards - Lead/rhythm guitar: Right channel

Richards back-up vocal: Right and up in the mix

Mick Taylor - Lead/rhythm guitar: Left channel

Wyman - Bass: Middle

Watts - Drums: Middle

"Apple Acetate" - The Mix:

Jagger - Vocal: Middle

Richards - Lead/rhythm guitar: Middle right

Richards back-up vocal: - Middle right and much lower in the mix

Mick Taylor - Lead/rhythm guitar: Middle left

Wyman - Bass: Middle

Watts - Drums: Middle

The acetate has both guitars "up" in the mix. The rawness and brilliance of Richards rhythm playing is masked by a guitar mix that has both guitar players buried in pile of distorted mud on the "Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!" album. You can clearly hear the guitars, and the incredible timing of Richards strumming of the guitar strings on the acetate. It's time for Mr. Jagger to buy the Decca catalog back from Allen Klein and remaster this and other classics from the original multi-tracks (not the masters) to restore the sound quality and add to the content. Maybe this is his motivation for working so hard at his age!

One final piece of the "Rosetta Stone" still remains missing. The audience source for November 28, 1969 1st show is the elusive culprit. This source is necessary to conclusively complete the research. If you have this one on your shelf please send email to chrism42@aol.com

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: Eleanor Rigby ()
Date: January 29, 2009 14:28

Stray Cat Blues: "The acetate like GYYYO uses the musical source from Baltimore 11/26/69, with an overdubbed vocal."

I am not convinced here. I greatly respect Chris M's brilliant work but i cannot see this ? Am I deaf ?

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: January 29, 2009 18:53

What do you mean you can't 'see' that? It's been well documented that there was live recording in Baltimore.

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: January 29, 2009 19:05

Quote
scottkeef
All the comments on the cd releases are word for word the same as the review in the old SFJ magazine. Any relationship there?
OK,I answered my own question as just read he was a contributing editor to SFJ.
Loved that mag even though I really felt ripped off when they discontinued publication one issue after I renewed my years subscription! They never started back up like they stated in their letter OR refunded any money!

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: January 29, 2009 20:30

I used to be part of the email version, whatever. That was really odd. I enjoyed it but a board like this one makes way more sense.

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: MILKYWAY ()
Date: November 10, 2021 02:26

Sorry for the delay. A release of the full concert is forthcoming.


Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: Valeswood ()
Date: November 10, 2021 14:23

Quote
MILKYWAY
Sorry for the delay. A release of the full concert is forthcoming.

Could you please expand on your statement? Source of this info?

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Date: November 10, 2021 15:41

And which full concert is that? MSG 1? MSG2? Baltimore? etc.

A lot was «copyright released» by ABKCO last year, btw.

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: November 10, 2021 16:11

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MILKYWAY
Sorry for the delay. A release of the full concert is forthcoming.

This is quite news, if true. And hidden here..

Something for the 60th Annniversary? Mick and Keith okayed it, since there probably is something else from ABKCO era they might use for their own upcoming Anniversary releases?

- Doxa

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: November 10, 2021 20:41

I don't care. I love it. I recently got a Band of Gypsys boxset with all four unedited concerts Hendrix and Company gave that night. (Only a month after the Ya Yas recordings). You see how some of the songs on the original Band of Gypsys release were stitched together and edited to make a stronger hole. It worked. Another one is the radio edit for Cream's White Room. The shortened version made the whole thing tighter.

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: November 10, 2021 21:23

Who cares if Jagger overdubbed some vocals.The fact is the instruments other than the rhythm guitar on Carol have no overdubs. And it is hardly noticeable.

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Date: November 10, 2021 21:38

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Taylor1
Who cares if Jagger overdubbed some vocals.The fact is the instruments other than the rhythm guitar on Carol have no overdubs. And it is hardly noticeable.

And on Little Queenie.

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: November 10, 2021 23:07

Do the songs on the bonus cd , like Satisfaction have overdubs?

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: November 11, 2021 08:34

Quote
Taylor1
Do the songs on the bonus cd , like Satisfaction have overdubs?

No. They only worked on the songs they had chosen for the original album. That's why they are on a separate CD.

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Date: November 11, 2021 10:03

And the video songs are definitely not overdubbed smiling smiley

Prodigal Son is a pain to listen to, and eventually they just cut it short because of Keith's out of tune guitar.

It's a good box set just the same thumbs up

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: November 11, 2021 11:15

Quote
DandelionPowderman
And the video songs are definitely not overdubbed smiling smiley

Prodigal Son is a pain to listen to, and eventually they just cut it short because of Keith's out of tune guitar.

It's a good box set just the same thumbs up

Makes me think that they probably don't have video material of Prodigal Son from the bonus CD - a pity, because that version is great imo!

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: November 11, 2021 11:36

Having those '69 shows presented in their entirety would be really nice, I think. It was to be expected, but it'd have ben quite something if ABCKO had of sequenced the 'bonus' tracks with the original Ya-Ya's, so the listener can have a more 'complete' experience. Just think: a far better sounding 'Liv'er Than You'll Ever Be'

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: November 11, 2021 12:01

Quote
MILKYWAY
Sorry for the delay. A release of the full concert is forthcoming

Way to stir it up man.smiling smiley

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: November 11, 2021 13:04

Quote
DandelionPowderman
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Taylor1
Who cares if Jagger overdubbed some vocals.The fact is the instruments other than the rhythm guitar on Carol have no overdubs. And it is hardly noticeable.

And on Little Queenie.

And Stray Cat.

Mathijs

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: TravelinMan ()
Date: November 11, 2021 16:40

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Mathijs
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DandelionPowderman
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Taylor1
Who cares if Jagger overdubbed some vocals.The fact is the instruments other than the rhythm guitar on Carol have no overdubs. And it is hardly noticeable.

And on Little Queenie.

And Stray Cat.

Mathijs

The overdubs don’t do much but add a crunchier rhythm guitar. Doesn’t make the album nor change its legacy, not even close.



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Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Date: November 11, 2021 17:02

Listening to Honky Tonk Women I think the edits mentioned are just the top of the
iceberg.

Re: What on Ya-Ya's is overdubbed?
Posted by: MILKYWAY ()
Date: November 11, 2021 18:39

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MILKYWAY
Sorry for the delay. A release of the full concert is forthcoming

Way to stir it up man.smiling smiley

Sadly, I can’t say more. I am as anxious as the next 1969 tour fan.

EDIT: There’s a few posters on this site a lot more familiar about 1969 tour and stuff related to it than me. Maybe they feel more comfortable giving info.





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