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Here`s a good proof that MT can play aggressively is he wants. Rhythm guitar on Live with me is played exatcly same style as on Bitch.
And if you listen Bitch, extented versions ending and Live with me´s third verse there is almost same guitar riffs on both tracks.
In think case is closed

His playing in the second verse is exactly what I mean: no doubt it's great playing, but it is subdued, with lots of palm muted strokes. It's behind the beat, not pushing forward. It's the sound that is aggressive, which likely is just the studio compressor being pushed to its limits during mixing, but the playing is not at all like the main riff of Bitch.

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Gimme Shelter Philly 1972 is a better example, Taylors counterpart during the verses. Timing almost ahead of Charlie, almost same scratch sound and driving the song in an aggressive way. There are more examples if you search the internet, even besides the Stones.

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Gimme Shelter Philly 1972 is a better example, Taylors counterpart during the verses. Timing almost ahead of Charlie, almost same scratch sound and driving the song in an aggressive way. There are more examples if you search the internet, even besides the Stones.

The same note-pattern indeed, but more licks and lead lines complementing Keith's rhythm than a comparison for the rhythm playing on Bitch?

To my ears, yes. Good enough to be Taylor on Bitch. Or Morning Story, Gothenburg '75,almost heavy metal. The loose A string on Bitch doesn't make the difference. Let me put it this way, and then I stop on this subject: There are live tracks (Ya ya's and Brussels) where you hardly hear the difference between Keith and Taylor at moments when they play the same rhythm . Why not on Bitch?



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To my ears, yes. Good enough to be Taylor on Bitch. Or Morning Story, Gothenburg '75,almost heavy metal. The loose A string on Bitch doesn't make the difference. Let me put it this way, and then I stop on this subject: There are live tracks (Ya ya's and Brussels) where you hardly hear the difference between Keith and Taylor at moments when they play the same rhythm . Why not on Bitch?

For me, there's a notable difference between them - mainly in how they use their right hand.

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DandelionPowderman

For me, there's a notable difference between them - mainly in how they use their right hand.

I notice some similarities as well. Great guitar team, to me the best the Stones ever had.

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TheflyingDutchman
Gimme Shelter Philly 1972 is a better example, Taylors counterpart during the verses. Timing almost ahead of Charlie, almost same scratch sound and driving the song in an aggressive way. There are more examples if you search the internet, even besides the Stones.

The same note-pattern indeed, but more licks and lead lines complementing Keith's rhythm than a comparison for the rhythm playing on Bitch?

Taylor wouldn't be playing like that on a record. He could get away with it live, but the studio is a different ballgame.

The Stones like it! It's on MADE IN THE SHADE, which it absolutely should be. It's on TIME WAITS FOR NO ONE, which is a fantastic comp. It made it on JUMP BACK and it's update, HONK.

It's also on SINGLES 1968-1971.