- Their tour is on track to be a monster
- Their back catalog sell more than the Beatles, Zeppelin or Pink Floyd (let alone the Stones): 9 million copies sold worldwide this year
- Their new album topped the charts in 30 countries and has sold 5 million copies in two months
- Their new music get constant airplay on the radio
- They're cool with the young audiences

The Stones can't get close to these facts, except the tour part.

Discuss.

yeah, I'm wondering too. really curious how the gig next year will be, then I'll know more...

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They're cool with the young audiences

That's 90% of why they're raking in the bucks right now.

For the most part, almost any band that appeals to younger audiences will do better than those who do not.
Young people tend to have more disposable income, or are simply willing to dispose of more of their income for entertainment than older adults.

I was young once, and quite honestly, I wish I could have back some of that money I spent.

I think also it's about reputation. And people want to rock. AC/DC has a great live reputation and obviously rock. And they're a lot of fun to watch. They certainly seem to really grin with the gimmicks - they are funny. The cannons, Rosie, the train. Why not?

I dunno if you call it a passing of the torch really. Would this same question be asked if it was U2? U2 so far are the only act to be in the Stones league as far as attendance, interest and money made. Where they blow the Stones out of the water is record sales. A lot of bands do though - the Stones have never been big record sellers.

Total nonsense. The Stones defy categorizing. They play a variety of styles. AC/DC is locked into one style of music, and they freely admit it. It is successful, but by no means are they "successors". I respect you, georgelicks, but you are on the wrong track with this argument.

AC/DC are nowhere, not even remotely in the same class as the Stones.

...they won't be passing down that torch to ANYONE.

........well lets just see what happens when U2 kick in next March and after that....

Barn Owl is right - AC/DC is not anywhere near being in the same class as the Stones.

Because AC/DC are consistent live!

yeah but the stones never opened for acdc, and they never will, so the torch stays in place

Did the Stones pass the torch to AC/DC?

NO .......Take ya hand off it



ROCKMAN

I wouldn't constitute being an opening act having to do anything with passing a torch. From what I read and have heard, the Stones asked AC/DC THREE TIMES to do a gig with them. That's a bit different than being a usual opening act.

no its not, and plus there is no proof that is true, its hearsay

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Barn Owl is right - AC/DC is not anywhere near being in the same class as the Stones.

Because AC/DC are consistent live!

LOL!! I knew I'd drag you into this one, skipstone!

Well I'll admit that AC/DC ARE certainly consistent.

...all their songs sound exactly the same!

Ha ha! I couldn't resist.

Actually, their keys change, so technically their songs don't all sound the same (GUFFAWWWWWW!!!!)

They sure can play though.

I think there are ACDC forums on the net,why dont you check those and see if they agree

This one works just fine, as you can see. I know there are AC/DC forums on the net but why bother when there is the odd thread here and there about them right here?

Go on.

One word - NO!!!

No - what? No more taxes? No more Beatles, Stones or Zep?

quality is a subjective element on which i won't bother to opine, but musically-speaking the two bands have about as much in common as the starlight vocal band and led zeppelin.....

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skipstone
This one works just fine, as you can see. I know there are AC/DC forums on the net but why bother when there is the odd thread here and there about them right here?

Go on.

uh er, because this is a stones forum

No, they have nothing in common.

Stones hardly sell records anymore and hardly attract a young audience, contrary to AC/DC but Stones are still live a huge seller.
(What I fail to understand personnally but that is not the question here)

Top 3 when it comes to records sales and attracting audience in rock nowdays:
U2
Springsteen
AC/DC

"Rumors" (1977) sold over 30 million copies. Three times more than what "Some Girls" have sold. Do you think this fact makes Fleetwood Mac bigger than the Stones? "Back In Black" (1980) sold over 42 million (of not more, now) copies, which means more than every Beatles, Zeppelin or Pink Floyd studio album. Who really thinks that AC/DC is bigger than Stones, Beatles, Zeppelin, Pink Floyd? Noone i guess...

I like AC/DC,i'll see them in Athens. But comparing them with bands or artists who really created rock history sounds like a joke in my ears. Yes AC/DC, have the ability to be monster album sellers once every 20 years. But they aren't in the same class as the Stones, Bruce and 7-8 really greatest acts.

The Stones never had been monster album sellers. Never. But they remain stable enough as album sellers. Kees, do you really think that 2.6 million copies sold (AB is a bad number nowdays? Just see what does the big majority of famous new or newer rock bands sell. And for sure a band cannot be attended by 4.6 million of people on a tour without attracting some young people, i guess...

Did the Stones pass the torch to AC/DC?

NO

The torch is lost today

Jan Richards

[www.stonesondecca.com]



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"The torch is lost today"

That's the right answer.
Both bands have amazing music and stuff.
But people these days just go to "shows" and not rock concerts ,lots of people divide themselves by youngsters and old men and go to certain "acts".
Some would say AC/DC?? , no they're just into the same kind of music , they use 3 chords and only young guys go there . And some stupid young guys would say , the rolling stones? , they're just 60 or so , and my grandpa's going , i won't go.
Why don't you stop the fight , and go shake your heads with passion at a rock concert?
At both of acdc concerts i went to , there were every kind of people , from 10 to 60 years old.They just rocked and i enjoyed it , i dont care about the sales or anything , i just love the way bands play when they really love to do what they do.

ACDC were big stones fans years ago , as KISS were also stones fans , as The Strokes are ACDC fans and Oasis are Beatles fans.
Every band has made something mystic on stage , we can't say there's a torch , every musician who loves music has it.
Now for some , it's just matter of sales , attendance(youngs or olds) , history , monster tours.

Please go to every concert as you can by any musician, and enjoy the music , don't think about anything else and shake your head as a crazy bastard.

I"m trying to think if I've ready anything more ludicrous this year. The Stones are in a class of their own.

AC/DC is a totally one dimensional band. And they won't rise above it either. (Not that they want to - that is part of their strength.) That lead singer...come on! To even have him in the same sentence with Jagger.
ACDC was never mentioned on these pages, not once, until Keith said he kind of liked them. Now we're talking about passing torches, and they have been everyone's second fave band all along

I don't think there is any passing of the torch because they are just too close in ages.. AC DC won't be around much longer either... To pass the torch you need a much younger band... say 20 years younger...

But I'll tell you this: all those slagging AC DC have not seen their show.. I saw them twice this tour and they put on a great show.. fabulous time.. and its rock and roll just like with the Stones.. but I look at them a bit more as contemporaries although its true that Angus and Malcolm as kids were influenced by the Stones and began in AC DC playing Stones covers...

why don't you listen to Honky Tonk , JJFlash , and others from the earliest acdc bootleg in sydney 1974?
i can post it right here
who wants to listen to it?

AC/DC is locked into one style of music, thats true. and since back in black there have not been more then 3 really good songs. but live they are just sooo much better then the stones nowadays.

Did the Stones pass the torch to AC/DC?

nope, the Stones passed a joint.